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Stars 25+2 Turbo 9-handed. I can\'t understand bubble call.
Hello,
I posted some time ago an hand where I was spite called.. (before posting I didn't know the 'spite call' concept..) I had many spite calls this period, but someone is really unexplainable for me. PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (4 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) UTG (t4009) Button (t4827) Hero (t2214) BB (t2450) Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t2164</font>, BB calls t1564. Flop: (t3878) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Turn: (t3878) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> River: (t3878) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Final Pot: t3878 He won it with 9To I'm pretty sure I didn't give impression to push ATC. I folded to him LOT of times with a wide pushing range because of terrible cards... It was not a misclick. He activated the timer, thinked about it and decided to call. I really can't find how this can be +EV or a spite call. I add he's a winning semi-regular. Maybe people know I lose allins whatever I hold ? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I would appreciate your comments. Thanks |
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Re: Stars 25+2 Turbo 9-handed. I can\'t understand bubble call.
Was he multi-tabling?
Keep in mind that if he was on quite a few tables he may have used up all his time, tilted because of another table and then called you out of tilt. |
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Re: Stars 25+2 Turbo 9-handed. I can\'t understand bubble call.
If you are pushing 66%, it's a break even call. Villain probably thought you're shoving ATC here or maybe slightly removed from that folding out the bottom hands in a ATC range here. This isn't a spite call, but rather what he takes to be a +ev call. FWIW you should be shoving ATC here if he calls top 45%. At 50% call range, shove top 92 (0.2 min edge).
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Re: Stars 25+2 Turbo 9-handed. I can\'t understand bubble call.
If he puts you on ATC then calling T9o is still not +EV but T9s would be okay [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
It's just a bad beat and a bad call by Villian as well. Just make a note that he calls loose (even on the bubble) [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] He maybe realized that he gets pretty good pot-odds so he decided to gamble [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] Deal with it ! |
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Re: Stars 25+2 Turbo 9-handed. I can\'t understand bubble call.
I can't understand the complaint. You got your money in really good. The poker gods smote you. BBV is over there ------->
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Re: Stars 25+2 Turbo 9-handed. I can\'t understand bubble call.
You got in as an 84% favorite. I like your chances there 5 out of 6 times.
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Re: Stars 25+2 Turbo 9-handed. I can\'t understand bubble call.
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You got in as an 84% favorite. I like your chances there 5 out of 6 times. [/ QUOTE ] OP's range doesn't like that call, though. |
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Re: Stars 25+2 Turbo 9-handed. I can\'t understand bubble call.
bee bee vee. im not folding this vs a reg and 3 bb's.
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Re: Stars 25+2 Turbo 9-handed. I can\'t understand bubble call.
The thing is : you have 3 BBs and if you're not shoving ATC here, you have a reaaaaaaaaaaally serious leak in your game.
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Re: Stars 25+2 Turbo 9-handed. I can\'t understand bubble call.
drzen, I didn't mean to complaint.
I should have pushed with J8 too there and post the hand with same question. So BBV is not the right place IMO Being evidently not in ATC vs this player (I know he could call very wide range... but didn't imagine 9Toff), I was just wondering about the call. It seems to me that waiting next 2 hands to push instead of calling this would have been +EV, expecially compared to that. Am I wrong thinking this ? Does it mean I should call these situations ? I loaded the hh in sngegt and it showed he was -EV if my pushing range was 0 to ~98%.. However, seem that sngowizard gives different results, I must check later. |
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