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Old 11-21-2007, 12:40 PM
Moseley Moseley is offline
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Default Mitt Romney - No New Taxes!

Romney boasts that he is the first Republican presidential candidate to sign a no-new tax pledge offered by the conservative Americans for Tax Reform. He did so in January, a day after he concluded his term as governor.

I would assume this means he has no intention of signing into law a revision of the Alternative Minimum Tax, which, since it has not adjusted for inflation since its creation, has been affecting more and more people, and will soon increase taxes for those making as little as 55k.

Or will he just promote a ballooning national debt?

Or.....anyone know?
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Old 11-21-2007, 12:49 PM
Kurn, son of Mogh Kurn, son of Mogh is offline
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Default Re: Mitt Romney - No New Taxes!

I don't know Mitt's intention, but I do know this. I'm voting for the candidate who will eliminate the income tax and replace it with nothing. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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Old 11-21-2007, 12:59 PM
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Default Re: Mitt Romney - No New Taxes!

No new taxes--just more of the old ones. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 11-21-2007, 01:02 PM
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Default Re: Mitt Romney - No New Taxes!

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Romney boasts that he is the first Republican presidential candidate to sign a no-new tax pledge offered by the conservative Americans for Tax Reform. He did so in January, a day after he concluded his term as governor.

I would assume this means he has no intention of signing into law a revision of the Alternative Minimum Tax, which, since it has not adjusted for inflation since its creation, has been affecting more and more people, and will soon increase taxes for those making as little as 55k.

Or will he just promote a ballooning national debt?

Or.....anyone know?

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Why does "no new taxes" = not eliminating an old tax?
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Old 11-21-2007, 01:09 PM
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Default Re: Mitt Romney - Michael Dukakis redux

Mitt Romney - Michael Dukakis redux

Romney appointed judge releases a killer. He moves to Seattle and kills again.

What is it with Massachusetts leniency?

Soft-on-cons Bay State

"Mauck, 30, and his recent bride, Beverly, 28, were shot to death last weekend, allegedly by Daniel Tavares Jr., released from Massachusetts custody just four months ago after killing his mother with a carving knife in 1991."
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Old 11-21-2007, 01:45 PM
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Default Re: Mitt Romney - Michael Dukakis redux

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Mitt Romney - Michael Dukakis redux

Romney appointed judge releases a killer. He moves to Seattle and kills again.

What is it with Massachusetts leniency?

Soft-on-cons Bay State

"Mauck, 30, and his recent bride, Beverly, 28, were shot to death last weekend, allegedly by Daniel Tavares Jr., released from Massachusetts custody just four months ago after killing his mother with a carving knife in 1991."

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a liberal state, bending over backwards for criminal's rights, with no death penalty....doesnt sound like its limited to Mass.

BTW I was glad to see 2 recent articles that show that the death penalty is indeed a deterrent. Common sense supported by science. whoda thunk.
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Old 11-21-2007, 02:28 PM
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Default Re: Mitt Romney - Michael Dukakis redux

I thought I read exactly the opposite recently, Copernicus.

EDIT: I am completely wrong. But an economist, Justin Wolfers, is arguing that the noise levels in the data is too large to draw conclusions and those that draw conclusions either way are doing so more on ideological blinders than any analysis.
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Old 11-21-2007, 02:42 PM
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Default Re: Mitt Romney - Michael Dukakis redux

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I thought I read exactly the opposite recently, Copernicus.

EDIT: I am completely wrong. But an economist, Justin Wolfers, is arguing that the noise levels in the data is too large to draw conclusions and those that draw conclusions either way are doing so more on ideological blinders than any analysis.

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I don't think people commit more murders because of the death penalty. It has to be some sort of deterrent but how much of one would seem to be the question.
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Old 11-21-2007, 03:44 PM
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Default Re: Mitt Romney - Michael Dukakis redux

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I thought I read exactly the opposite recently, Copernicus.

EDIT: I am completely wrong. But an economist, Justin Wolfers, is arguing that the noise levels in the data is too large to draw conclusions and those that draw conclusions either way are doing so more on ideological blinders than any analysis.

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the Pepperdine statistical analysis recently discussed in the WSJ showed something like 34,000:1 odds that their findings were statistically signifcant to the 99% confidence level (or maybe 95%). A lawyer responded with the "correlation != causation" argument, which the authors had already discussed. Their findings over a 25 year period or so was that 1 publicized execution resulted in 74 fewer murders.

another factoid in one of the blogs related to the article was that there have been exactly 0 documented cases of an innocent person being executed, defusing that argument.

Anyway, sorry to derail this into capital punishment.

Specific programs to reduce taxes and spending are what is needed, not pledges and not rants about eliminating the IRS and institution of a flat or VAT tax without clear plans for implementation and transition.
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Old 11-21-2007, 05:45 PM
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Default Re: Mitt Romney - No New Taxes!

LOL. Yeah, Ron signed that pledge with his voting record long before.

Also, did he say "read my lips" first? That's the only way we'd know to believe him.
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