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#1
11-18-2007, 03:07 PM
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fish donking the river
UTG is loose-passive. Not sure what he's river donk means.
Pf: hero is CO K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] UTG calls, hero raises, Button 3-bets, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls, hero calls Flop: K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (13 SB) check, check, hero bets, Button folds, SB folds, UTG calls Turn: 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (7,5 BB) UTG checks, hero bets, UTG calls River: 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (9,5 BB) UTG bets, hero calls 
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#2
11-18-2007, 03:25 PM
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Re: fish donking the river
from a loose passive, i think it means a flush (discounted because he didn't c/r), K4, 44, or some other king (also discounted). i'd discount a flush by 40-60% and other kings by about the same. so plug into pokerstove and if you have more than 50% equity, raise/fold.
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#3
11-18-2007, 03:28 PM
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Re: fish donking the river
In my experience this is either a flush or a busted draw. Sometimes it is a marginal hand donking the scarecard.
If its a flush raising sucks If its a broken draw that donk/folds raising does nothing for you If its a marginal hand that donk/calls raising is good. This is one of the two first two too often for me to raise.
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#5
11-18-2007, 03:38 PM
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Re: fish donking the river
folding here is bad.
I played those stakes as well and regardless of limits when fish donks here they can have a lot more than flushes. Getting 10.5 he needs to have you beat about 92% for you to fold. Seriously. You cant ever fold here unless you have a VERY VERY good read.
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#6
11-18-2007, 03:41 PM
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Re: fish donking the river
Every time I call here they got flushes 0_0; He is some lp fish, do you want to see his Ax of c? Maybe he called cause the J hit him, but what is he betting at? J4?? I dunno usually they will just call if they have a medium strength hand, they aren't that tricky. But ya, I probably don't know what I'm talking about and I would listen to Oink.
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#7
11-18-2007, 06:11 PM
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Re: fish donking the river
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folding here is bad. I played those stakes as well and regardless of limits when fish donks here they can have a lot more than flushes. Getting 10.5 he needs to have you beat about 92% for you to fold. Seriously. You cant ever fold here unless you have a VERY VERY good read. [/ QUOTE ] even with a very very good read, you still call with two pair. This thread is stupid. He has a flush most of the time, you can't raise. He's also a LP fish, which means he sucks at poker, and you have two pair, and the pots big. So basically, folding sucks, raising sucks, calling is all that's left. Raise folding the river online is hardly ever the right play, and it's not here. Plus, is our hand good enough to raise the river? Those discount the flush? why, he played his hand like a flush draw, and bet when it hits. Looks like a flush to me.
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#8
11-18-2007, 06:37 PM
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Re: fish donking the river
[ QUOTE ]
folding here is bad. I played those stakes as well and regardless of limits when fish donks here they can have a lot more than flushes. Getting 10.5 he needs to have you beat about 92% for you to fold. Seriously. You cant ever fold here unless you have a VERY VERY good read. [/ QUOTE ] agreed, look at the numbers, i dont get why the guy above said if ur good 50% then do something, this isnt a raising spot clearly, call and take notes
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#9
11-18-2007, 04:05 PM
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Re: fish donking the river
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What level are you playing? In my games (.50) this is a flush like 90%+ of the time vs a lp. I would fold pretty easily and not think anything of it. [/ QUOTE ] It's 2/4 in Ongame. And this is not a flush 90% of the time in my games.. Actually this wasn't the only time today i saw loose-passive donking the river with TPTK after calling down flop and turn.
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#10
11-18-2007, 04:15 PM
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Re: fish donking the river
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] What level are you playing? In my games (.50) this is a flush like 90%+ of the time vs a lp. I would fold pretty easily and not think anything of it. [/ QUOTE ] It's 2/4 in Ongame. And this is not a flush 90% of the time in my games.. Actually this wasn't the only time today i saw loose-passive donking the river with TPTK after calling down flop and turn. [/ QUOTE ] that changes things a lot. you should provide this info in the op. looks like an easy r/f to me with this new info.
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