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#1
03-07-2006, 11:49 AM
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Playing KK vs. a limp-reraiser
UTG is the table maniac, but I hadn't seen him limp-reraise yet. MP2 is young and seems like a relatively good player. Game is 30/60 at Resorts, but as usual, the game plays like 3/6 online at best.
Hero has K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] in SB. UTG calls. UTG+1 calls. 1 fold. MP1 calls. MP2 calls. 3 folds. Hero in SB raises. UTG 3-bets. UTG+1 folds. MP1 calls. MP2 calls. Hero Caps. UTG, MP1, and MP2 call. Flop is 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (18.5 SB) Hero Bets. UTG calls. MP1 calls. MP2 folds. Turn is 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (10.75 BB) Hero checks. UTG checks. MP1 bets. Hero raises. UTG folds. MP1 folds. River is 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (14.75 BB) Hero bets. MP1 raises. Hero calls. What do you think? 
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#2
03-07-2006, 12:02 PM
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Re: Playing KK vs. a limp-reraiser
I'd just bet the turn. No one has shown any interest on the flop, and this could easily get checked around, and you lose value from anyone that wants to call with 2-6 outs.
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#4
03-07-2006, 01:05 PM
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Re: Playing KK vs. a limp-reraiser
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Also, I'd edit the post to make MP1 call on the turn instead of folding. [/ QUOTE ] Strange... I don't have the edit button showing up on my screen. But you're right...that is a mistake.
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#6
03-07-2006, 03:25 PM
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Re: Playing KK vs. a limp-reraiser
Dear god man, checking this turn is suicide...
Who is going to bet your hand for you? The answer is: you don't know. You are giving free cards to As and gutshots which are worth a ton in this gigantic pot.
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#7
03-07-2006, 06:16 PM
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Re: Playing KK vs. a limp-reraiser
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Dear god man, checking this turn is suicide... Who is going to bet your hand for you? [/ QUOTE ] How about the player to your left who was described as "the table maniac"? This is a great spot to trap the field for two bets on the turn. When it checks around, the free card rarely costs you the pot. Anybody with outs to beat kings up wouldn't have folded the turn anyway. The only real question is which line gets more money in on average and in this spot, it's the check-raise.
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#8
03-07-2006, 08:21 PM
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Re: Playing KK vs. a limp-reraiser
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[ QUOTE ] Dear god man, checking this turn is suicide... Who is going to bet your hand for you? [/ QUOTE ] How about the player to your left who was described as "the table maniac"? This is a great spot to trap the field for two bets on the turn. When it checks around, the free card rarely costs you the pot. Anybody with outs to beat kings up wouldn't have folded the turn anyway. The only real question is which line gets more money in on average and in this spot, it's the check-raise. [/ QUOTE ] Bobby, You make an excellent point. I hadn't realized that UTG was the table maniac. If he is in fact that, the limp reraise needs to be taken with a grain of salt. Also, if he is such a maniac, isn't it worth considering betting and hoping to get raised, so we can three-bet? Or does this become a bet-control issue, in which case we don't want to open ourselves up to putting in 4 bets on the turn?
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#9
03-07-2006, 08:32 PM
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Re: Playing KK vs. a limp-reraiser
I would have bet that turn - I'm surprised the check raise worked, I find they rarely work when I need them to, and I'd be afraid of losing value - besides, betting out, you *may* have received additional bets from UTG, or MP1 may have raised for you, giving you a chance to check the river.
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