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Old 11-14-2007, 08:13 PM
GiantBuddha GiantBuddha is offline
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Default QQ 3ways vs. short shove & player behind; 50NL

No reads. Obviously I want to get it in vs. Shorty, but what's SB's range here, given he's unknown? Short stack actually didn't shove, he's got $.35 behind, so I can reraise and so can SB.

PokerStars Pot-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($18.75)
Button ($51.80)
SB ($63.85)
BB ($43.15)
UTG ($8.85)
UTG+1 ($50.30)
MP1 ($47.05)
MP2 ($9.50)
Hero ($49.75)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $1.5</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $5</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls $4.75, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $8.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero...
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Old 11-14-2007, 08:32 PM
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Default Re: QQ 3ways vs. short shove & player behind; 50NL

i happen to have seen a number of these type of overcalls today... invariably they were TT-QQ and AK. Saying that tho, i have seen one or two tricky players in the past do this w/ AA and KK. I would still lean towards JJ and AK tho.

if you just call then sb is probably calling..
...you can shove....
... but if you are unsure then i think this is one of the extremely rare occasions where i might minraise... if SB has TT, JJ, or AK he's probably putting it down (assuming he's not a "spewtard") and AA or KK would probably move in, so you can still fold.
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Old 11-15-2007, 02:19 AM
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Default Re: QQ 3ways vs. short shove & player behind; 50NL

I 4-bet even with JJ(I have made QQ fold to this play by bein so aggressive) so you have some fold equity for his dead money.
4-bet here and if he calls bet flop...Im certain this is the most +ev play but its small. I've been tracking these types of hands all month and posted a couple. When there is alot of money in the pot you have to be more aggressive with your big hands.

To be honest I put him on 1010 or JJ as already mentioned and maybe AK
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Old 11-15-2007, 02:31 AM
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Default Re: QQ 3ways vs. short shove & player behind; 50NL

PokerStars Pot-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($18.75)
Button ($51.80)
SB ($63.85)
BB ($43.15)
UTG ($8.85)
UTG+1 ($50.30)
MP1 ($47.05)
MP2 ($9.50)
Hero ($49.75)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $1.5</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $5</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls $4.75, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $8.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $16</font>, SB calls $11, UTG calls $0.35 (All-In).

Flop: ($41.35) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $33.75 (All-In)</font>, SB folds.

Turn: ($41.35) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

River: ($41.35) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $7.60

Results in white below:
UTG has 3c 3s (full house, sevens full of threes).
Hero has Qd Qs (full house, sevens full of queens).
Outcome: Hero wins $75.10.
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Old 11-15-2007, 02:32 AM
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Default Re: QQ 3ways vs. short shove & player behind; 50NL

I was a little worried when he called my 5-bet. I guess he had AK.
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Old 11-15-2007, 02:33 AM
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Default Re: QQ 3ways vs. short shove & player behind; 50NL

NH I had a feeling thats how it would go down well played
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Old 11-15-2007, 02:49 AM
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Default Re: QQ 3ways vs. short shove & player behind; 50NL

ty. when you posted basically exactly what happened, I figured it was time for results. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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