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CBET and Blind Stealing
Hello!
I have noticed that my blind stealing and CBET-ing is very high (compared other players). This month I have played 40k hands and blind stealing is 46% and continuation bet is 71%. And I am worried about that. Maybe I am overusing these powerful money making weapons and I need some advices. Blind Stealing As I already mentioned, 40k hands and stealing% is 46%. Is it too high or its okay? Also I used PokerTracker filter to see blind stealing profit: PokerTracker->Filters.. and then under the Chance To Steal Blinds I choosed Chance To Steal & Raised (Is it right place to check out blind stealing profit?). And it shows that my blind stealing is profitable: 0.27 BB/HAND. My question is: 0.27 BB/HAND is bad/average/good? Or it should be higher? Continuation Bet As I already said, it is 71%. And again I think it's too high - looks like I am overusing CBET-ing. Also there is any possibility to check CBET profit? I used something like that: filter, then under: Pre-flop Raise - Action On Flop, I choosed Bet and under Showdown, I choosed Folded Before Showdown. (I raise pre, made cbet and then someone raised - I fold - CBET failed). It was -7.08 BB/Hand. Then again filters and changed Folded Before Showdown to Won Without Showdown - results was: +4.08BB/Hand. And using this two numbers - Succesful CBET: +4.08 BB/HAND Failed CBET: -7.08 BB/HAND ----------------------------- Results -3.00 BB/HAND But this don't show real results because maybe I made value bet on the flop and scare card arrive on the turn and I folded or I double barreled with nuts and opponent folds. I don't know how to check that how succesful my cbeting is - anyone have ideas? But anyway. Any advices to find out stealing/CBET-ing leaks? How about my numbers? All suggestions, ideas and advices are welcome. |
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Re: CBET and Blind Stealing
46% is pretty high... for that sample size. I go through some days with that amount but avg around 38%
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Re: CBET and Blind Stealing
I noticed that too, Ranka. That's why I 3-bet you w/j4o. j/k
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Re: CBET and Blind Stealing
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And it shows that my blind stealing is profitable: 0.27 BB/HAND. My question is: 0.27 BB/HAND is bad/average/good? Or it should be higher? [/ QUOTE ] In Pokey's infamous PT post he said that if you multiply the bb/hand by 100 and come out with a number that is double your ptbb/wr then you're doing good. So unless you're winning 14bb/100 you're stealing good. |
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Re: CBET and Blind Stealing
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Pokeys PT post [/ QUOTE ] Yes, I know this great post and I printed it out several months ago and I using it atleast once in month. But this stealing winrate explanation there is strange. I don't know, if he wrote this text maybe the games were fishier and great player had better winrates than nowadays. I don't know but each time I analyze my game - stealing winrate is very good comparing this text. [ QUOTE ] these numbers can yield great winrates for players who are exceptional postflop. what are your vpip/pfr? and what level are you playing? [/ QUOTE ] This statistic consist: nl100 - 8000 (14/12/6.2) hands and nl50 - 32000 (15/14/6) hands - average 15/13/6. |
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Re: CBET and Blind Stealing
These two stats in conjunction can constitute a leak.
Cbet itself is typical, I think mine is higher. Steal blinds is pretty high, but the real problem is that you are trying to steal half the time, and then you are cbetting after the steal. The thing to do IMO is steal less, but if you are stealing this much I think you have to cut down on your cbetting. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe its working for you. I just know if you are trying to steal ~1/2 the time and usually cbetting I am c/ring you all day. This can cause a big problem b/c you will have to fold the worse hand almost always and you will often fold the best hand too, b/c if you make something like top pair J with Q kicker, and you get c/r'ed or donked into hard on the turn you are going to have to lay it down, and decent opponents will take such lines very light b/c they give you no respect. or just get really good at huge hero calls |
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Re: CBET and Blind Stealing
these numbers can yield great winrates for players who are exceptional postflop.
what are your vpip/pfr? and what level are you playing? |
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these numbers can yield great winrates for players who are exceptional postflop. [/ QUOTE ]What do you think is exceptional? |
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[ QUOTE ] these numbers can yield great winrates for players who are exceptional postflop. [/ QUOTE ]What do you think is exceptional? [/ QUOTE ] umm i don't know, the best few players at each level? hard to say... |
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