Messing with an ABC TAG

[AshleyC]

Villan is 16/14.

This is usually a fold pre-flop, but against ABC opponents a small % of the time I call here with position and decent stacks.

I'm not sure about the turn or river play. Thoughts on both streets appreciated. River is obv a bluff, not a value bet.

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

SB ($210.75)
BB ($393.30)
UTG ($172)
MP ($400.80)
Hero ($201.75)
Button ($101.60)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $7</font>, Hero calls $7, Button calls $7, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($24) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets $16</font>, Hero calls $16, Button calls $16.

Turn: ($72) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $50</font>, Button folds, MP calls $50.

River: ($172) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $128.75 (All-In)</font>,

[thac]

Why? You have a lot of showdown value, I don't get it? Do you think he's calling with A9?

Edit - Turn is fine.

[immesan]

I really think your hand is good often enough..what did u think vill was holding for making this move? with JJ i´d like to thin he´s betting turn and cant see him getting this far with a random Q.

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Why? You have a lot of showdown value, I don't get it? Do you think he's calling with A9?

Edit - Turn is fine.

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what does he show down agaisnt and win besides draws and A9s

[thac]

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Why? You have a lot of showdown value, I don't get it? Do you think he's calling with A9?

Edit - Turn is fine.

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what does he show down agaisnt and win besides draws and A9s

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What better hands does he have that fold?

[Isura]

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Why? You have a lot of showdown value, I don't get it? Do you think he's calling with A9?

Edit - Turn is fine.

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what does he show down agaisnt and win besides draws and A9s

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What better hands does he have that fold?

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That is irrelevant to his question

[thac]

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Why? You have a lot of showdown value, I don't get it? Do you think he's calling with A9?

Edit - Turn is fine.

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what does he show down agaisnt and win besides draws and A9s

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What better hands does he have that fold?

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That is irrelevant to his question

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I realize that, I word things wrong all the time. Like, what hands does he have? Overpairs, maybe better 10s, or draws and random 9s.

[Isura]

We def don't have SD value once he calls the turn. I don't really like betting that card though since he might not expect us to vb QJ, and spades missed. Spades/A/straight cards are good to bet river with.

[Montezuma21]

calling pre would be so much better if you were BTN, but w/e.

turn i check behind i think. villain could well be playing pot control with a scare QQ+ (i don't think nits often Cbet this flop with mere overcards). BTN is a half-stack, so he could peel turn with pretty much anything, and you're getting a call from MP a good% of the time. you've also got a gutshot, so a free card will also give you the best hand sometimes.

River is pretty ugly. what are you repping? T9?

[TheGreenMile]

pre is very meh... i like flop and turn, i check out river all day though.. i just dont think you are folding out much that you beat, except maybe JT or KT.