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A fairly typical situation there. Assume there is no observations yet on the villain.
Hero - 50$. Villain - 50$. Hero (SB) A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] CO calls 0.50 Hero bets 2.25 Villain (BB) calls, CO folds. Flop (5.5$) 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Hero bets 4$, Villain raises to 8$. What is our line here? Apply the same situation to two different flops: A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] My original thoughts were that in the first case scenario any Jack and some pocket pairs will reraise us flat just to see where they stand, but what conclusion can I drive? Reraise to 20$ and fold to further action? Or call, and check/call reasonable bet(s)? In the second case scenario I am inclined to defend my pair against draws, but in the third case I am worried enough about stronger hands and weak kicker to consider call, turn c/f. What do you think? This is one of the most frequent and annoying and -$ situations I am facing with a decent hand... |
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I probably c/c down to river with the J93 flop. I 3 bet the A79hh board due to draws, and c/c the A73r board. Obviously this is dependent on bet sizing, but in general thats my line.
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I wouldn't bet on the A73 rainbow flop, because you can't get 3 streets of value usually, unless villain is retarded, so you might as well get some more value from bluffs. On this flop, I'm calling the minraise and c/c'ing down, and I wouldn't be surprised to see something like JT, QJ. I'm not scared of that minraise.
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If youre going to c-bet dry flops when you miss or with mid pair, then you have to c-bet dry flops when you hit them with top pair as well. You definitely could get 3 streets of value as this is BvB and no one ever assumes the other person has anything.
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If youre going to c-bet dry flops when you miss or with mid pair, then you have to c-bet dry flops when you hit them with top pair as well. You definitely could get 3 streets of value as this is BvB and no one ever assumes the other person has anything. [/ QUOTE ] Its not BvB preflop - there was a limper, so you're range is narrowed. I don't always cbet HU, sometimes I'll check small pp, sometimes TPWK, sometimes TPTK, sometimes air. Also, most of my villains are not considering my play, just their cards, so even if I checked my TP here and cbet without it, they wouldn't figure it out. |
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The limper makes no difference, why do you assume villain even knows this? As a general rule, you should be c-betting dry flops 100% of the time against unknowns whether you hit them or not. Those are the flops you look to c-bet on. Why you would ever check air or anything on that flop is beyond me. The only way I check air on these flops is if I am convinced villain looks me up very light. Or, when I hit the flop, I have to be convinced that a flop check will lead to 2 streets of value for me.
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A fairly typical situation there. Assume there is no observations yet on the villain. Hero - 50$. Villain - 50$. Hero (SB) A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] CO calls 0.50 Hero bets 2.25 Villain (BB) calls, CO folds. Flop (5.5$) 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Hero bets 4$, Villain raises to 8$. What is our line here? Apply the same situation to two different flops: A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] My original thoughts were that in the first case scenario any Jack and some pocket pairs will reraise us flat just to see where they stand, but what conclusion can I drive? Reraise to 20$ and fold to further action? Or call, and check/call reasonable bet(s)? In the second case scenario I am inclined to defend my pair against draws, but in the third case I am worried enough about stronger hands and weak kicker to consider call, turn c/f. What do you think? This is one of the most frequent and annoying and -$ situations I am facing with a decent hand... [/ QUOTE ] Flop (5.5$) 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] On this flop I would call his reraise and on any good TURN cards I would CR all in((no K,Q,T )) and lead if he checks. He could have here some weak J or QT but I think most of the times his hand is weak Flop (5.5$) A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] I would go with the hand here.Reraise him and get it in.Lots of bad turn cards for us. FLOP (5.5$)A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Hmm...here if we call flop the pot will be 16+5=21 on the turn.If we c/c a safe turn for about 16$ the pot will be 21+32=53$ on the river. will have behind on the river ~23 if I didn't get this wrong so I think we have to decide on the turn because I think its bad to call half of the stack and fold river. Here there are no real draws so he either has a good hand or we have him dominated and he has a weak A (or sometimes trapping with a big one [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]) Also I hate AJ oop |
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