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Old 11-07-2007, 03:51 AM
carnivalhobo carnivalhobo is offline
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Default I dont like folding overpairs... in 4bet pots

My image is solid, i havent lost a showdown, and ive been picking up a lot of pots (w$wsf was at 58 wtf) playing 22/17/5
CO is decent 21/12/4.5 22 wtsd over 650 hands. Doesnt seem to get out of line and just sticks it in with the goods.
BTN on the other hand sucks. 41/12/2.6 over 126. Hasnt really done anything too bad yet, but doesnt really know whats up.

Is this an easy fold?


Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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Hero (BB): $223.10
UTG: $469.55
CO: $537.15
BTN: $165.80
SB: $198

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $4</font>, CO calls $4, <font color="red">BTN raises to $6</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $25</font>, UTG folds, CO calls $21, BTN calls $19

Flop: ($80) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $55</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $140.80 and is All-In</font>
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Old 11-07-2007, 03:53 AM
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Default Re: I dont like folding overpairs... in 4bet pots

im folding, looks like we are behind
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Old 11-07-2007, 03:53 AM
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Default Re: I dont like folding overpairs... in 4bet pots

id make it a lil more preflop.

once CO cold calls the open and the 4bet id be pretty scared once he comes alive on this flop.

check fold looks pretty good.
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:17 AM
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Default Re: I dont like folding overpairs... in 4bet pots

standard fold imo
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:34 AM
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Default Re: I dont like folding overpairs... in 4bet pots

When I saw the title I couldn't imagine a fold, but I can now.
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Old 11-07-2007, 05:55 AM
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Default Re: I dont like folding overpairs... in 4bet pots

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When I saw the title I couldn't imagine a fold, but I can now.

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If the title included "3 players saw the flop" then I could imagine a fold, but it's a clear fold now
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Old 11-07-2007, 06:40 AM
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Default Re: I dont like folding overpairs... in 4bet pots

title is misleading; fold is easy
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Old 11-07-2007, 06:40 AM
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Default Re: I dont like folding overpairs... in 4bet pots

You Equity in this pot is &lt;50% easily.

Versus CO draws (with agg factor of 4.5 he is capable of pushing edges) your prolly 50/50 and versus his bigger hands 2pr/set your a big dog (NB. CO may bet his made hands identically to his draws to protect them). What are you comfortably beating? Not a lot.

Factor in the donk and his possible holdings then your Equity reduces even further.

Also fwiw you have no Redraws to a flush. The gutshot straight draw probably isn't clean.

Clear FOLD imo
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:35 AM
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Default Re: I dont like folding overpairs... in 4bet pots

If you can't fold here you should have bet the flop.

That being said you should fold now, but I'm likely betting the flop.
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:36 AM
carnivalhobo carnivalhobo is offline
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Default Re: I dont like folding overpairs... in 4bet pots

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If you can't fold here you should have bet the flop.

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if i bet the flop, co shoves and bb calls can i fold?
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