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Old 11-06-2007, 07:59 PM
duvvard duvvard is offline
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Default Tough spot late in 10$ single rebuy

MP2 had just become chipleader, I've played 55 hands with him and he was 30/28/infinite. I was in quite a few donkaments at the time, so that's about all I had to go on, other than one hand he raised K9o UTG and made a marginal call of a reshove.

22 people left, 7 handed. Do you think calling his 3 bet is best pre, since it's only 11.5k more, and we are both fairly deep, or 4 betting because his range is likely pretty wide (and I should have a fairly tight image)? What do you do on the flop once we've hit a piece??



PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t5000 (7 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB (t72664)
BB (t68440)
UTG (t95985)
Hero (t97060)
MP2 (t221512)
CO (t115216)
Button (t64963)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t13500</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t25000</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero calls t11500.

Flop: (t52500) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets t35000</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero: ?????</font>
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Old 11-06-2007, 09:48 PM
Bond18 Bond18 is offline
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Default Re: Tough spot late in 10$ single rebuy

You know, pre flop is one of those situations where i always wonder if i should be folding. I guess since he's such a spew tard you probably shouldn't fold.

Had you seen him make tiny raises like this before pre? If not i want to say c/f flop. If he'd been doing it a fair bit i want to say chk/shove.
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Old 11-07-2007, 12:39 AM
hamnegger hamnegger is offline
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Default Re: Tough spot late in 10$ single rebuy

i think w ace 10 id just fold pre to the repop.its weak but i think its best ev move long run.too often we c/fold flop and when we dso continue we lose too often anyway. i would rather have j10s 78 or small pair. do we really love this flop?
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Old 11-07-2007, 02:25 AM
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Default Re: Tough spot late in 10$ single rebuy

Preflop is the toughest part of the hand. MP2's range is pretty wide so I like the call.

Flop- I would think we are ahead on the flop here more often than not, I dont like folding, but we are pot committed if we call the flop. Im shoving here. We have a tiny bit of FE and we are prob ahead vs this guy if he calls.
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:32 AM
LordRaven LordRaven is offline
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Default Re: Tough spot late in 10$ single rebuy

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Preflop is the toughest part of the hand. MP2's range is pretty wide so I like the call.

Flop- I would think we are ahead on the flop here more often than not, I dont like folding, but we are pot committed if we call the flop. Im shoving here. We have a tiny bit of FE and we are prob ahead vs this guy if he calls.

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My thoughts exactly
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:52 AM
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Default Re: Tough spot late in 10$ single rebuy

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You know, pre flop is one of those situations where i always wonder if i should be folding. I guess since he's such a spew tard you probably shouldn't fold.

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I'd fold anyway...i don't think that there is any way (even against a spewtard) to play ATo OOP in a 3-bet pot with 20BBs.
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Old 11-07-2007, 05:24 AM
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Default Re: Tough spot late in 10$ single rebuy

If you have no other read I would also fold this preflop.

Main problem are (as often) stack-sizes. If you call his preflop 3-bet there is about 60k in the pot, leaving you about 70k left. So if you hit the flop you are committed (more or less). What flop would you like to hit (apart from KQJ). If you hit an ace - what is your play than - you'll have to shove in a situation where your hand is very likely only second best. If you hit the T like here it's nearly the same. So if you call this 3-bet you need to hit the flop very good, like 2 pair or better with the stack-sizes given.
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Old 11-07-2007, 06:30 AM
plzleenowhammy plzleenowhammy is offline
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Default Re: Tough spot late in 10$ single rebuy

id shove pre b/c fk him
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