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Old 11-05-2007, 04:21 AM
kerk kerk is offline
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Default To weak with KK?

Poker Stars, $12 + $1 NL Hold'em Tournament, 10/20 Blinds, 6 Players
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MP: 1,460
Hero (CO): 1,550
BTN: 1,360
SB: 1,480
BB: 1,500
UTG: 1,650

Pre-Flop: (30) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG calls 20, <font color="red">MP raises to 60</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to 200</font>, 3 folds, UTG calls 180, MP calls 140

Flop: (630) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
UTG checks, MP checks, <font color="red">Hero bets?


No real reads as very early on. Seems weak to check fold, seems stupid to bet into 3 people that have called the RR.
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Old 11-05-2007, 04:47 AM
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Default Re: To weak with KK?

Checking behind is really OK. If they both check again on the turn, I'd bet something like t400.
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Old 11-05-2007, 05:53 AM
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Default Re: To weak with KK?

UTG could have a pretty wide range, most likely a small pair or a connector type hand. If you check flop and he bets out turn i'd put him on a strong hand.

MP raised very small against a limper, got reraised and snapcalled. If he's somewhat competent you can rule out hands like 88-TT since he wouldnt get implied odds. He could be a bad player having JJ or QQ looking for a safe flop, or slowplaying AA (since he reraised the limper so small).

I think the most likely hands for MP is AT-AK though and i'd check behind like pocketbear suggested. Probably call a small turnbet by MP and reevaluate the river, or of course bet out turn when they check.
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Old 11-05-2007, 07:10 AM
RexWoo RexWoo is offline
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Default Re: To weak with KK?

I would check behind and probably check again on the turn (and call a bet)
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Old 11-05-2007, 07:28 AM
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check again on the turn (and call a bet)

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We're last to act, Rex.
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Old 11-05-2007, 08:25 AM
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Default Re: To weak with KK?

I would put in a tiny bet and make that the last I put in this pot! I had this exact hand last night with one extra player.

I checked figuring SOMEBODY had an ace.

There was a bet on the river. 2 players called and I said screw this and folded.

Result was NO ONE had an ace but a guy had a set.
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Old 11-05-2007, 10:32 AM
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Default Re: To weak with KK?

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check again on the turn (and call a bet)

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We're last to act, Rex.

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Yeah.. but.. ?
I play it the same as Rex, betting the turn seems not good.
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Old 11-05-2007, 12:35 PM
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Default Re: To weak with KK?

check flop.
if they both check on the turn, its close but you can never bet the river if you bet the turn and get called, nor is there much value in protecting your hand if youre not willing to put more money in the pot and think its likely that youre already beat...this could still easily be Ax thats calling down but wont bet their hand.
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Old 11-05-2007, 12:43 PM
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Default Re: To weak with KK?

what AMT said
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Old 11-05-2007, 07:17 PM
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Default Re: To weak with KK?

yeh i checked behind and then UTG bet 400 pretty quickly on the turn, i folded. I just thought my line was a bit weak.
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