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Ajo on the button vs. calling stations
I think I got giddy eyed over the two calling station/donators.
Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 Limit Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players LegoPoker Hand History Converter Hero (BTN): 18.20 BB SB: 20.60 BB BB: 21 BB 55/1/1 UTG: 19.40 BB MP: 44.60 BB CO: 49.70 BB 53/1/1 Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN) 2 folds, CO calls, <font color="red">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, BB calls, CO calls Bad spot raising Ajo vs two calling stations? Flop: (6.4 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players) BB checks, CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, CO calls Turn: (4.7 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players) BB checks, <font color="red">CO bets</font>, Hero calls, BB calls I'm bewildered as to why I called and did not fold or raise. Which would have been the better play? I'm almost positive that one, most likely CO, was playing a weak ace(limped pf, called flop, then bet ace) River: (7.7 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players) <font color="red">BB bets</font>, CO calls, Hero ? I feel inclined to call but my gut tells me to me I'm beat. |
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Re: Ajo on the button vs. calling stations
At first.. I was like, meh, such a standard hand until the river.
On turn, CO reps the Ace, which is fine because we are still ahead/even w/ his range. On river, BB leads saying that he can beat the Ace. This is mostlikely a fold and a def fold against thinking players. |
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Re: Ajo on the button vs. calling stations
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I think I got giddy eyed over the two calling station/donators. [/ QUOTE ] Is that a read? You can fold this hand. |
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Re: Ajo on the button vs. calling stations
Preflop and flop looked good.
Pf you had position with a good hand to raise for value against loose players. Flop, your oppponents checked to you indicating weakness. You had an inside straight draw and 2 overcards if called, so your continuation bet seemed good. I would have raised the turn, as I suspect that you probably had the best hand. When the BB suddenly wakes up and bets the river, it suggests that top pair is no longer good. Perhaps he just made a straight or strange 2 pair hand. Nonetheless, I would have made a crying call on the river as the pot was big by then. |
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Re: Ajo on the button vs. calling stations
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I think I got giddy eyed over the two calling station/donators. [/ QUOTE ] donkers? Do they like to bet with made hands or stupid bluffs? Do they like to checkraise when they have a good hand? Are they weak? That is kind of key here. I am raising the turn in most cases. Buzz |
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Re: Ajo on the button vs. calling stations
Where your thinking seems a little off is that you think it's bad to bet against calling stations. But it's fine if you are ahead of the range of cards they are calling with. You don't just bet to fold others out. You bet when you're winning to maximise your profit. So preflop is okay, flop is okay, and raising the turn would be okay. Yeah, sometimes CO has A7, and sometimes BB calls two cold with his KTo, but mostly they have A4 and QT and you score a nice pot, which you built by making them put money in with worse hands.
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Re: Ajo on the button vs. calling stations
totally standard hand
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Re: Ajo on the button vs. calling stations
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totally standard hand [/ QUOTE ] even the part on the river where OP doesn't act? [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] so what's your play here on the river? |
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Re: Ajo on the button vs. calling stations
I think you should have raised the turn because even if he is representing an ACE he probably doesn't have AK or AQ because if he did he should have raised if that was the case. I think you have to call on the river. You don't have a strong enough reason not to call.
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Re: Ajo on the button vs. calling stations
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Where your thinking seems a little off is that you think it's bad to bet against calling stations. [/ QUOTE ] I think the question at hand is whether to raise a calling a station (on the turn) or to call a bet from a calling station (on the river). This is significantly different than into a calling station. |
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