NL10 - Flopped nuts - trying to extract maximum value.

Damntra · #1 11-03-2007, 04:32 PM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (8 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 ($3)
MP2 ($6.15)
CO ($1.93)
Button ($4.65)
SB ($9.95)
BB ($10.66)
Hero ($10)
UTG+1 ($2.95)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero raises to $0.15, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.15, CO raises to $0.4, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.25, MP2 calls $0.25.

Flop: ($1.27) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $0.8, MP2 calls $0.80, CO raises to $1.53, Hero calls $0.73, MP2 calls $0.73.

Turn: ($5.86) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)

Should I have folded preflop to CO reraise?

I should have realized that the cutoff didn't have enough for me reraise if he shoved on flop.

What's the proper play on the turn to try and get MP2's remaining $4 in? C/c, c/r or lead out and if so, for his remaining stack or try and get him to call a turn bet and then a river bet?

RapidEvolution · #2 11-03-2007, 04:50 PM

Any reads on the villain? If he's not a spewtard I fold to the preflop 3bet. He's likely either got a high pair, or a hand that dominates you...plus, you're at a loss if, for some reason, MP2 decides to shove. I'd bet out on the turn, since he's called everything else, but hasn't raised. IMO, he'll check behind you if you check. MP2 has a stack<the the pot so might as well shove him in here. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

BTW Where in NY are you? I'm in the BX.

Damntra · #3 11-03-2007, 04:52 PM

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Any reads on the villain? If he's not a spewtard I fold to the preflop 3bet. He's likely either got a high pair, or a hand that dominates you...plus, you're at a loss if, for some reason, MP2 decides to shove. I'd bet out on the turn, since he's called everything else, but hasn't raised. IMO, he'll check behind you if you check. MP2 has a stack<the the pot so might as well shove him in here. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

BTW Where in NY are you? I'm in the BX.

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I'm in Queens.

No read on the villain.

RapidEvolution · #4 11-03-2007, 04:54 PM

Yeah, without reads, I think this is a fold, preflop. With his stack that short, it's really just worth it to play KQ as a top pair hand, and if you make TP, chances are villain will have you outkicked.

Teddie · #5 11-03-2007, 05:01 PM

Fold pre-flop, and definitly fold whn you get re-raised.

Shephard · #6 11-03-2007, 05:15 PM

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Fold pre-flop, and definitly fold whn you get re-raised.

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and bet on the turn, there are 2 flush draws, i wuld bet something like $3.40

ActionStan · #7 11-03-2007, 06:22 PM

You shouldn't open-raise UTG with KQo. Start there.

You certainly shouldn't call a 3-bet. You're out of position with a really marginal hand. Catching a K will get you broke far more often than it will help you. So unless you have some sort of A+ read you can bust a guy if you catch top pair, fold up shop.

There is one caveat here. If you were heads up with the CO, you could think about sticking it all in here and playing for his 20BB stack. You hand might be good enough for that. In general, he's going to show up with an A or a pair if he's half way competant at which point you aren't getting the money to play. But, lots of low limit short stackers are awful and will show up with hands which KQ does pretty well against. That's not the case in this hand, so fold.

On the turn, I'd bet enough to put MP2 all-in. He really doesn't have all that much left at this point compared with the pot. He'll either call it or he won't.

As with the last hand you posted, look for reasons not to play hands in the early positions. You're going to be playing OOP the whole hand, so you need hands that play well independent of position. Pocket pairs, big suited A's, that's about the end of the list. When you expand your range, do it when you'll be in position. It's an enormous advantage.