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Old 11-02-2007, 08:13 AM
darinvg darinvg is offline
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Default $225: TT overpair

Raiser was a little LAG. MP2 flat caller is a complete donk (80 VPIP after ~20 hands). I would think a bigger overpair would bet more to protect themselves. Fine?

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MP1 (t1500)
MP2 (t1210)
MP3 (t1470)
CO (t2260)
Button (t1460)
SB (t1420)
BB (t1500)
UTG (t1180)
Hero (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls t30, Hero calls t30, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t150</font>, MP2 calls t150, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, UTG calls t120, Hero calls t120.

Flop: (t645) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets t210</font>, MP2 calls t210, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero shoves?</font>
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Old 11-02-2007, 08:30 AM
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Default Re: $225: TT overpair

I would have raised preflop. Too much of a chance of weak Ax, broadways limping in behind me.

I damn sure would not have checked the flop unless I was absolutely certain someone behind me was going to bet so I could reraise as you did.
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Old 11-02-2007, 09:29 AM
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Default Re: $225: TT overpair

i like if you shoved. TT is not the greatest but that pot is huge and there is a good chance to take it down and when called you are probably just a slight dog to villians range.
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Old 11-02-2007, 09:50 AM
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Default Re: $225: TT overpair

You're dead on darinvg. Based on the action, you have to be ahead unless both these guys are complete nits. I would expect two folds to your shove most of the time. Nobody is slowplaying an overpair or set on this board.

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Old 11-02-2007, 10:17 AM
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Default Re: $225: TT overpair

With the combination of the weak bet and weak call, I think a shove is good, but I'm not thrilled about it.

Why no raise preflop? It's been a while since I've played a lot of 9man, so just asking if this is standard?
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Old 11-02-2007, 10:20 AM
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Default Re: $225: TT overpair

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With the combination of the weak bet and weak call, I think a shove is good, but I'm not thrilled about it.

Why no raise preflop? It's been a while since I've played a lot of 9man, so just asking if this is standard?

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lvl 1 and 2 I always limp TT behind limpers and in early position. I'll raise MP and late but always open raise in lvl 3+.
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Old 11-02-2007, 10:21 AM
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Old 11-02-2007, 12:20 PM
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Default Re: $225: TT overpair

Pf, I sometimes limp, sometimes raise. I like to bet out on the flop. If raised, you can be fairly certain you're behind. As played, Both of them look weak, though it's possible LAG could be doing this with a 99/77. I still like a shove.
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Old 11-02-2007, 12:51 PM
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Pf, I sometimes limp, sometimes raise. I like to bet out on the flop. If raised, you can be fairly certain you're behind. As played, Both of them look weak, though it's possible LAG could be doing this with a 99/77. I still like a shove.

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Isn't bet folding bad? I'd have to bet like 400.
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Old 11-02-2007, 12:53 PM
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Pf, I sometimes limp, sometimes raise. I like to bet out on the flop. If raised, you can be fairly certain you're behind. As played, Both of them look weak, though it's possible LAG could be doing this with a 99/77. I still like a shove.

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Isn't bet folding bad? I'd have to bet like 400.

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the nice thing about checking is if the action goes bet/raise you can safely fold.
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