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View Poll Results: HOW FAT IS U
REAL FAT 15 4.09%
130-150lbs overweight 12 3.27%
110-130lbs 6 1.63%
90-110lbs 4 1.09%
70-90lbs 4 1.09%
60-70lbs 2 0.54%
50-60lbs 5 1.36%
40-50lbs 12 3.27%
30-40lbs 20 5.45%
20-30lbs 29 7.90%
10-20lbs 54 14.71%
0-10lbs 66 17.98%
im in shape (lie) 84 22.89%
. 9 2.45%
. 5 1.36%
. 11 3.00%
. 8 2.18%
. 9 2.45%
. 4 1.09%
. 8 2.18%
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Old 11-01-2007, 05:26 PM
madnak madnak is offline
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Default The importance of being (Error!)

To get started I'm going to pose a hypothetical.

Fred Astaire is always right. He never makes a mistake. If you give him a problem that he can solve, he will solve it correctly 100% of the time. But Fred can't handle differential equations. Starting somewhere around basic calculus, he just can't wrap his mind around the problem. Fred's a logical person, he's right where all of the common-sense stuff is concerned, and he's a great poker player.

Ginger Rogers makes mistakes. She makes lots of mistakes. In fact, in every problem she tries to solve, she has a 50% chance of [censored] up. What's 3+3? "7." What's the largest mammal? "The shrew." How many fingers am I holding up? "Erk - NaN." But Ginger can handle any kind of problem. She consistently scores 60 on the Putnam exam, and if she sets out to prove the Goldbach conjecture, she has a 50% chance of success. Yes, no matter what the problem is, Ginger has a 50% chance of solving it. Ginger is often seen as irrational due to her mistakes, and she frequently hemorrhages money in poker.

So, who's smarter?
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Old 11-01-2007, 05:43 PM
Splendour Splendour is offline
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Default Re: The importance of being (Error!)

madnak, Ginger of course. Everyone knows Ginger did everything Fred did in heels going backwards. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 11-01-2007, 05:44 PM
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Ginger is an impossibility.

It would take a parlay of many 50% error free steps (on 3+3 =7 type ones) for her to solve difficult problems.

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Old 11-01-2007, 05:50 PM
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Default Re: The importance of being (Error!)

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Ginger is an impossibility.

It would take a parlay of many 50% error free steps (on 3+3 =7 type ones) for her to solve difficult problems.

D

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this is why i couldn't vote.
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Old 11-01-2007, 06:10 PM
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Default Re: The importance of being (Error!)

Ginger appears to be some sort of freakish idiot savant.
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Old 11-01-2007, 06:15 PM
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Ginger appears to be some sort of freakish idiot savant.

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ROFL [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 11-01-2007, 06:45 PM
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Ginger is an impossibility.

It would take a parlay of many 50% error free steps (on 3+3 =7 type ones) for her to solve difficult problems.

D

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this is why i couldn't vote.

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It's a hypothetical. Suspend this. How she solves the problems is irrelevant, it's the results that matter.
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Old 11-02-2007, 03:15 AM
David Sklansky David Sklansky is offline
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Ginger is an impossibility.

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So is Fred. Anyone who can do math questions up to differential equations perfectly, is not going to all of a sudden hit a wall if he tackles harder subjects. Especially since most, if not all, math problems can eventually be broken down into simple logic.
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Old 11-02-2007, 12:05 PM
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Especially since most, if not all, math problems can eventually be broken down into simple logic.

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Not true, not even close unless you mean by exhaustive search (which no human can do) and even then its not true.

chez
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Old 11-02-2007, 01:49 PM
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Especially since most, if not all, math problems can eventually be broken down into simple logic.

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Not true, not even close unless you mean by exhaustive search (which no human can do) and even then its not true.

chez

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Who is correct here?
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