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Old 10-31-2007, 01:48 PM
spliff spliff is offline
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Default 100NL, 4-bet allin with OESD, as respons to weak donk bet

I normally raise a weak lead/donk bet as a standard; i have no reads on Villian to make another play (expect a monster).

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $186.65
HERO: $100.00
Button: $59.85
SB: $72.80
BB: $33.60

Pre-flop: (5 players) HERO is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">HERO raises to $4</font>, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($9, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $2</font>, <font color="#cc0000">HERO raises to $8</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $22</font>, <font color="#cc0000">HERO raises all-in $88</font>

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Villain donk bets 2 into 8 pot on flop!

I have FE vs. top pair, and Villain could be playing back with a marginal hand in this situation.
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Old 10-31-2007, 01:52 PM
Suigin406 Suigin406 is offline
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Default Re: 100NL, 4-bet allin with OESD, as respons to weak donk bet

ok i guess, y not just call flop raise to 22?? i like ur line on a raggy board to sell the overpair, but no so much on this one
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Old 10-31-2007, 01:53 PM
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Default Re: 100NL, 4-bet allin with OESD, as respons to weak donk bet

I think you're overestimating your fold equity

I don't think he's folding very often after he 3-bets the flop.
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Old 10-31-2007, 01:58 PM
KCrow KCrow is offline
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Default Re: 100NL, 4-bet allin with OESD, as respons to weak donk bet

I think I fold to the 3bet......I agree with Chaos that you less FE than you think.

Calling's not even that good as the villain's not deep enough. If they were 100bb deep I'd call and re-evaluate on the turn.
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Old 10-31-2007, 02:16 PM
Dire Dire is offline
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Default Re: 100NL, 4-bet allin with OESD, as respons to weak donk bet

Shoving's no good. You have zero FE here and will be worse than a 2:1 dog in a pot without enough overlay to justify it. Calling the flop is fine. You have 8 outs and he's usually stacking on any turn.
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Old 10-31-2007, 03:08 PM
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Default Re: 100NL, 4-bet allin with OESD, as respons to weak donk bet

once he 3bets the flop, I don't think we have a lot of FE, if any. I would call the small 3bet given that we are getting pretty good odds and we have position. we hit nuts on turn and stack him.
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