How much, and why?

fees · #1 10-29-2007, 07:17 PM

no stats on villian, his name is asdklfjhsdf if that changes anything. I have been VERY active at this table, firing multiple barrels and 3betting a ton, just a recent rush of cards. I didn't bet the turn b/c I didn't wanna have to b/f and I though I could get a [censored] of river value if I connected.

Anyway I feel the river has like 3 bet sizes, 60 looking like I want thin value and might get c/r'd by bluffs or Ax/just get called down light b/c of his weak line, 90 as just a plain vbet, and overbet shove.
FWIW I think 90 is std.

Fees (BTN): $851
SB: $390
BB: $400
UTG: $101
CO: $581.90

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Fees (BTN)
UTG calls $4, CO folds, Fees raises to $20, SB folds, BB calls $16, UTG folds

Flop: ($46) Q

J

8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, Fees bets $32, BB calls $32

Turn: ($110) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, Fees checks

River: ($110) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, Fees bets....

JKratzer · #2 10-29-2007, 07:21 PM

60 for the reasons you said

MatthewRyan · #3 10-29-2007, 07:22 PM

push

MatthewRyan · #4 10-29-2007, 07:23 PM

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push

[/ QUOTE ] because hes a donk and will call often with Ax. vs a thinking player 60 is or something is good

shootaa · #5 10-29-2007, 07:33 PM

I think overbetting here with Ax and with flush are both better and its a more consistent way of getting value. If he's some insane lag/donk then bet small and let him jam it for you, but without reads I would probably fire out about 230 . Fwiw, i just got tank looked up like this by the poop end of the straight and shipped a giant pot.

results oriented ftw

shootaa · #6 10-29-2007, 07:35 PM

... also, i bet the turn a lot of the time.

reup · #7 10-29-2007, 07:40 PM

90 pay me bich

jj12 · #8 10-29-2007, 07:40 PM

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... also, i bet the turn a lot of the time.

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turn bet is pretty gross imo

notmybeer · #9 10-29-2007, 09:09 PM

With your image, I like a push. With a less agro image, then I'd go with a smaller over-bet, but still prefer the over-bet to the $90ish bet. Ax is calling pretty much anything here and everything else is folding to any reasonable bet.

FireStorm · #10 10-29-2007, 07:34 PM

Not sure how many Ax hands he can have that would play like this. that being the case, you can probably just make a normal value bet here, $75 etc.