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Old 10-29-2007, 02:43 PM
raze raze is offline
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Default Squeeze with KK, good flop but he just don\'t care...

He's a regular, 22/13/5 over 400, we have no history together. The other two guys are fish.

I've played 110 hands at this table and have been quite tight at 19/16/8. I haven't done anything significant, no squeezes or big plays.

He's gotta have a set or some pretty huge balls to make that little raise.

Call flop? Call turn/river bets on blank cards?

Party Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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Hero (BB): $503.10
UTG: $236
CO: $495.87
BTN: $855.66
SB: $543.20

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $8</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $8, SB calls $6, <font color="red">Hero raises to $46</font>, 2 folds, SB calls $38

Flop: ($108) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $78</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $168</font>
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Old 10-29-2007, 02:45 PM
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Default Re: Squeeze with KK, good flop but he just don\'t care...

poosh, its drawy and if he's dumb enough to setmine here its not profitable.
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Old 10-29-2007, 02:48 PM
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Old 10-29-2007, 05:36 PM
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poosh, its drawy and if he's dumb enough to setmine here its not profitable.

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Old 10-30-2007, 01:03 AM
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poosh, its drawy and if he's dumb enough to setmine here its not profitable.

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Really? I mean, everyone here is saying shove. They're kinda deep, and he's calling 38 to win like 525.

I know the argument is going to be that OP won't always stack off when villain hits a set, since it's "just a squeeze", but I don't know if that applies here. OP is nitty and squeezing an UTG raise, his range should be really strong, not wide.

The other arguement is that sets don't always win, which is reasonable. I wonder: Exactly what is the threshold of stacks sizes where calling 38 is profitable?
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Old 10-30-2007, 01:10 AM
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Default Re: Squeeze with KK, good flop but he just don\'t care...

The poker games are loose, so just go all in www.lolwtf.com
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Old 10-30-2007, 01:48 AM
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Default Re: Squeeze with KK, good flop but he just don\'t care...

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poosh, its drawy and if he's dumb enough to setmine here its not profitable.

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Really? I mean, everyone here is saying shove. They're kinda deep, and he's calling 38 to win like 525.

I know the argument is going to be that OP won't always stack off when villain hits a set, since it's "just a squeeze", but I don't know if that applies here. OP is nitty and squeezing an UTG raise, his range should be really strong, not wide.

The other arguement is that sets don't always win, which is reasonable. I wonder: Exactly what is the threshold of stacks sizes where calling 38 is profitable?

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You have to factor in stuff like hero getting set over set on villain, boards like Axx where hero isnt felting KK, and flushdraw boards where hero has a lot more equity. Im too lazy to do the math though.
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Old 10-30-2007, 02:44 AM
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poosh, its drawy and if he's dumb enough to setmine here its not profitable.

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Really? I mean, everyone here is saying shove. They're kinda deep, and he's calling 38 to win like 525.

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Anything little over 100bb is not deep.

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The other arguement is that sets don't always win, which is reasonable. I wonder: Exactly what is the threshold of stacks sizes where calling 38 is profitable?

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Calling is profitable with these stacks if hero folds an overpair for a miniraise.

The exact setmining odds depend on what hero felts here + the things choo choo mentioned. I'm in the too lazy to do the math camp.
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Old 10-30-2007, 03:17 AM
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you gotsta go ALLLL INNN BABY!!!!!!
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Old 10-29-2007, 02:48 PM
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lol hes an idiot...push
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