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Old 10-28-2007, 01:21 PM
RUDIKULOUS RUDIKULOUS is offline
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Default this is one of those spots where i get confused 200NL

Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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MP: $214.75
CO: $191
BTN: $191.55
SB: $208.85
BB: $200
Hero (UTG): $208.15

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $8</font>, MP folds, CO calls $8, 3 folds

Flop: ($19) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $14</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $38</font>, Hero calls $24

Turn: ($95) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($95) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)

Villain is basically unknown but I see him on a few of my tables so I don't think he can be that terrible.

Does anyone bet/call the turn? And do you bet the river or c/c?
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Old 10-28-2007, 01:24 PM
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Default Re: this is one of those spots where i get confused 200NL

I actually like betting the turn because he can easily have KQ, QT, or A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] x[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]x[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and he's never folding.
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Old 10-28-2007, 01:26 PM
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Default Re: this is one of those spots where i get confused 200NL

Yeah, I'll bet/call this turn. Were you going to c/c?

As played, I'll bet/fold $50 on river.
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Old 10-28-2007, 01:28 PM
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Default Re: this is one of those spots where i get confused 200NL

I left out river action because I have no clue ahaha. But I think bet $50 is good because a lot of [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] hands are checking behind on the river because they have a pair so I don't they're turning it into a bluff.
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Old 10-28-2007, 01:28 PM
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Default Re: this is one of those spots where i get confused 200NL

If someone is raising hearts or J9 on the flop, they are betting the Ace scarecard way more often than not
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Old 10-28-2007, 01:48 PM
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Default Re: this is one of those spots where i get confused 200NL

I was c/r the turn.

hotbacon, whats your river plan?
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Old 10-28-2007, 02:08 PM
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Default Re: this is one of those spots where i get confused 200NL

I bet the turn here always.

As played I b/f river, around 60-ish.
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Old 10-28-2007, 02:08 PM
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Default Re: this is one of those spots where i get confused 200NL

He's not calling with worse unless he has two pair.
possible two pairs:
AT - nope, he would've bet the turn (and not raised the flop)
AJ - improbable, unless it's AJ hearts which is totally likely
QJ - fairly improbable given that he raised the flop. Basically impossible if hes a standard 1/2 guy

better hands -
KT hearts
KQ

So, I think it's fairly unlikely that he has a worse hand that calls you very often if you bet. Also, AJ hearts will value bet the river sometimes if you check to him anyway, so not betting vs it isn't TOO big of a deal. If you bet the river, I think it should be to induce a bluff raise, which is silly here vs an unknown. I would check, calling most halfish pot bets and folding to big bets. I guess you may miss value from Ax[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] by not betting the river really small, but other than that I see no advantage to betting... /random thoughts
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Old 10-28-2007, 02:11 PM
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Default Re: this is one of those spots where i get confused 200NL

JThh and Axhh could both call, although the second would probably be betting the turn. QTs is reasonable too.
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