Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > PL/NL Texas Hold'em > Medium Stakes
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10-26-2007, 05:17 PM
KhalynYohrk KhalynYohrk is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,108
Default 4 betting QQ vs hotseat

Basically curious if when a player is getting hit w the deck do you ever 4 bet light(QQ) thinking he might be trying to be active w the big stack?(but no real proof of this) And Once you get 5 bet here is this ever a fold? I cant imagine so, but thought I'd ask. 75bb's to win almost 250 bb's.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $470.90
UTG+1: $561.70
CO: $221.40
Button: $650
SB: $164.60
BB: $1916

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $14</font>, 4 folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $52</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $172</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises all-in $1916</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero calls all-in $312.9</font>.
Uncalled bets: $1431.1 returned to BB.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($488.9, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $971.8)


Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($488.9, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $971.8)


River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($488.9, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $971.8)


Results:
Final pot: $488.9
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 10-26-2007, 05:25 PM
Requin Requin is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Back online
Posts: 6,446
Default Re: 4 betting QQ vs hotseat

Uhhh 4-betting QQ is not 4-betting light, 4-betting QQ with the intention of folding is bad, 4-betting as big as you did isn't great (like 130 is fine). If you hate your last decision here (calling off the rest) then you should avoid this spot by flatting the 3-bet.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10-26-2007, 05:45 PM
Trivial Trivial is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: There hides the Crowman...
Posts: 902
Default Re: 4 betting QQ vs hotseat

what the hell?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10-26-2007, 05:55 PM
KhalynYohrk KhalynYohrk is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,108
Default Re: 4 betting QQ vs hotseat

I know 4 bettin QQ is not light. I know I'm never folding QQ once I 4 bet, w/o reads I am wondering if I person is running hot do you ever avoid them? Is this just standard? Is there any point to adjust when a person is running good?
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10-26-2007, 05:58 PM
Hoopster81 Hoopster81 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: between the click of the light and the start of the dream
Posts: 3,648
Default Re: 4 betting QQ vs hotseat

don't know villain, but the fact that he is 3-betting your UTG open from from the BB when the pot is going to be HU anyways makes his range a lot stronger (unless he's just a monkey)
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10-26-2007, 06:19 PM
berserk berserk is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,676
Default Re: 4 betting QQ vs hotseat

clearly if he is running hot you should avoid him, even if he is behind he will definitely outdraw you.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 10-26-2007, 07:48 PM
mustmuck mustmuck is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 457
Default Re: 4 betting QQ vs hotseat

[ QUOTE ]
clearly if he is running hot you should avoid him, even if he is behind he will definitely outdraw you.

[/ QUOTE ]

Exactly. Surely this was obvious to you before you started this thread? Just change tables.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 10-26-2007, 07:55 PM
KingGordy KingGordy is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,392
Default Re: 4 betting QQ vs hotseat

I think you're crushed here most of the time in a UTG vs. BB situation. I would just call his 3 bet.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 10-26-2007, 07:56 PM
tannenj tannenj is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Check out my blog
Posts: 3,830
Default Re: 4 betting QQ vs hotseat

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
clearly if he is running hot you should avoid him, even if he is behind he will definitely outdraw you.

[/ QUOTE ]

Exactly. Surely this was obvious to you before you started this thread? Just change sites.

[/ QUOTE ]
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 10-26-2007, 08:21 PM
stackingboxes stackingboxes is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 251
Default Re: 4 betting QQ vs hotseat

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
clearly if he is running hot you should avoid him, even if he is behind he will definitely outdraw you.

[/ QUOTE ]

Exactly. Surely this was obvious to you before you started this thread? Just change tables.

[/ QUOTE ]

same goes for KK and AA, fold cause he is on fire.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:41 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.