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Help Plz.....I cant beat the fish!
So I was checking out PT in an inquiry to a question and came up with something quite interesting.
Basically, my the top losers to me are the "solid" regulars....while the top winners to me are the people I always thought of as fish. Obviously this isnt true for everyone but if I filter for >1k hands and search for the 55 names that come up, only a few are up decently on me. A few more have broken even, im up a bit one some, and up very nicely on more than a few. Its def skewed in that direction. The only thing Im coming up with at the moment is that since I consider them fish/weak I try to hard to bully them, dont give them enough respect, or call down to much... Anyone have any thoughts on this or how to combat it(other than the ovbious of playing tighter against them)? Thanks, Evan |
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Re: Help Plz.....I cant beat the fish!
Sample size mang
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Re: Help Plz.....I cant beat the fish!
110k
Not long long term I know...but certainly not short |
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Re: Help Plz.....I cant beat the fish!
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110k Not long long term I know...but certainly not short [/ QUOTE ] it is extremely short when you consider # of hands you have against each player. even taken collectively, you probably only have 50k hands against fish and 50k hands against good players. both samples mean very little. |
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Re: Help Plz.....I cant beat the fish!
Do you realise how slow results converge? 110k is perhaps enough to put your TOTAL winrate within 1BB/100 with 95% confidence (I havent done the calcs but its about there I think).
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Re: Help Plz.....I cant beat the fish!
I think your style of play has alot to do with this. Going into to much detail might not be in your best interest but I would just suggest not getting too tricky against the players you describe.
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Re: Help Plz.....I cant beat the fish!
I think this is normal. Fish are higher variance than TAGs. The reason fish arent at the top of your won from list is that if you run well v them they often busto. The TAGs are properly rolled and hence come back for more.
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Re: Help Plz.....I cant beat the fish!
Hmmm, You all make good points.
Didnt think about how small a number of hands against each player that translates into. Thanks |
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Re: Help Plz.....I cant beat the fish!
ill take a stab. poker is glorified coin flipping?
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Re: Help Plz.....I cant beat the fish!
Since, our numbers are similar on how we play and I experience the same issue as you. I am glad you posted this. I did some research after we comunicated previously on this subject and what I believe the case to be is that since we play more pots we have marginal holdings in position quite often. Against, a solid player the positional advantage is huge since they are willing to fold a wide range of hands against the so called FISH (or calling station) they call down more often even with marginal holdings but often have you beat. This is what I believe is occuring. Since, they don't fold ace high or King high, they often call your J10 Q10 to the river.
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