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Old 10-24-2007, 09:10 PM
scatt_man scatt_man is offline
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Default 100NL : AQ with top pair and flush draw facing agression

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $27.00
UTG+1: $222.45
CO: $99.90
Button: $78.50
SB: $105.95
Hero: $226.95

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, 3 folds, 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $5</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($10.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $7</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $15</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($40.5, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $25</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $80</font>, UTG+1 calls.

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($200.5, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 is all-in $121.45</font>
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Old 10-24-2007, 09:11 PM
scatt_man scatt_man is offline
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Default Re: 100NL : AQ with top pair and flush draw facing agression

How is my line in this hand and what should i do on the river ?

Villain is 58 / 15 / 2.4 over 181 hands
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Old 10-24-2007, 09:35 PM
FilthyLarry FilthyLarry is offline
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Default Re: 100NL : AQ with top pair and flush draw facing agression

reads on villain?

reraise the flop, youve got a monster

tough hand cause youre deep, but as played it looks like a fold on the river. i prob wouldnt fold cause im a fish, but it really looks like he hit a set on the flop

edit: oh i didnt see that you posted villain's stats. if hes been fishy postflop then id call river
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Old 10-25-2007, 01:19 AM
markuisis markuisis is offline
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Default Re: 100NL : AQ with top pair and flush draw facing agression

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How is my line in this hand and what should i do on the river ?

Villain is 58 / 15 / 2.4 over 181 hands

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I really dont like ur line, i shove flop, as played, I cold call turn, as u played turn: I call river shove getting good odds against a seemingly somewhat maniacal opponent and expecting sets to shove turn.
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Old 10-25-2007, 01:25 AM
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Default Re: 100NL : AQ with top pair and flush draw facing agression

Yeah I like C/C turn. If he's firing worse clubs (or air), we don't want to blow him off it. If we don't improve...whether to C/F or C/C just becomes player/read dependent.

Question: What do you guys do here if river is the 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]?
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Old 10-29-2007, 06:39 PM
bilbo-san bilbo-san is offline
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Default Re: 100NL : AQ with top pair and flush draw facing agression

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How is my line in this hand and what should i do on the river ?

Villain is 58 / 15 / 2.4 over 181 hands

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I really dont like ur line, i shove flop, as played, I cold call turn, as u played turn: I call river shove getting good odds against a seemingly somewhat maniacal opponent and expecting sets to shove turn.

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Dude, we are 220BBs deep. This is beyond terrible.

I call flop and play poker, but 3-betting a normal amount isn't bad either.

As played, c/c turn &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; c/r turn. Wow are you in bad shape if a non-idiot calls a turn c/r.

I probably call flop, c/c turn, check the river and see how much he bets, intending to call up to 2/3 or so. If he bets more, I tank a lot (and then probably make a tilting call).
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Old 10-25-2007, 06:00 AM
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Default Re: 100NL : AQ with top pair and flush draw facing agression

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How is my line in this hand and what should i do on the river ?

Villain is 58 / 15 / 2.4 over 181 hands

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your flop line is perfectly fine.
3 betting kinda sucks vs this guy because you're so deep (too deep to shove, really awkward turn spot if you make it 50) and he's very rarely folding anything that hes willing to rasie with in the first place.
if this was only 100bb's deep then shoving flop is obv fine.

i dont like the turn ch/r at all. you're not getting value from anything much there. he limped UTG,the raised that flop - his range is so heavily sets, strts and 2 prs that you should be happy he gave you such good odds to draw to the nuts. the only hands you beat are like 77-99 and do you really think those a calling a check raise?

river is an easy fold as played, but i would have c/c turn and then proably c/c most rivers, ch/rai if i hit a [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
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Old 10-25-2007, 06:07 AM
Bulletproof Monk Bulletproof Monk is offline
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Default Re: 100NL : AQ with top pair and flush draw facing agression

c/c river is great here vil has a busted draw like 99% of the time
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Old 10-25-2007, 06:09 AM
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Default Re: 100NL : AQ with top pair and flush draw facing agression

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c/c river is great here vil has a busted draw like 99% of the time

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so we both have flush draws? the way the hand played out i think he has a monster far more often than a missed draw
and why is villain ever bluff shoving the river after we ch/r'd the turn? i think even this donk is smarter than that
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Old 10-25-2007, 06:12 AM
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Default Re: 100NL : AQ with top pair and flush draw facing agression

a monster either calls or raises the flop by more most of the time

a monster shoves the turn over our 3bet most of the time

on the river he is committed to making that bluff shove a good amount of the time given the pot size
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