I suck.................... AQ OTB

luvetoholdem · #1 10-23-2007, 06:55 PM

New to table 1 orbit so far. This is on UB, and I hate this site b/c I dont know how to use converter, or request hand history.

Its 6 handed but folded to me OTB.

Stacks

Hero(Button): $104
Villan (SB) : $110
(BB) :$31

So its folded to me and I pick up A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
I make it $4 and SB calls, BB folds.

Flop

$9) 10 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
SB checks and I bet $8, and SB makes it $32

What is his range here, and do you think he is drawing?

Xanta · #2 10-23-2007, 06:57 PM

Arr in!
(Not 100% sure about this one, but pretty sure it's good)

TDouble · #3 10-23-2007, 06:58 PM

I asked this exact same question here and got some varying responses.

Xanta · #4 10-23-2007, 07:00 PM

Verrrry different flop textures in that hand TDouble.

orange · #5 10-23-2007, 07:11 PM

i typically call and shove the turn.

spivey · #6 10-23-2007, 07:14 PM

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i typically call and shove the turn.

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Are you shoving safe turns or all turns? All turns, I think we should just shove now.

Xanta · #7 10-23-2007, 07:15 PM

peyote, if you fold here it's profitable to call with any two cards and check/raise pretty much any flop against you. It's no good.

orange · #8 10-23-2007, 07:19 PM

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i typically call and shove the turn.

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Are you shoving safe turns or all turns? All turns, I think we should just shove now.

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shoving now is fine i guess. just sortve depends what you think his c/r means. some players will c/r draws more often than their tps (ie. they'll c/c with QJ and c/r with like J9 or spades). so generally safe turns i shove.

AE6 · #9 10-23-2007, 07:12 PM

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I asked this exact same question here and got some varying responses.

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not even close to the same thing

i'd shove

TDouble · #10 10-23-2007, 08:06 PM

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I asked this exact same question here and got some varying responses.

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not even close to the same thing

i'd shove

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I agree this board is different but I guess my point is those that think you are getting c/r here by all kinds of draws is crazy. Sure, I'll give you K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] or A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] but naked gutshots? No freakin way.

How can you justify that kind of thinking with no history or table image?