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Old 10-21-2007, 03:59 PM
solvine solvine is offline
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Default NL 100 - TPTK marginal spot

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 7 Players
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BTN: $78.60
SB: $149.50
BB: $97.90
Hero (UTG): $109.35
UTG+1: $26
MP: $44.55
CO: $100

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $3.50</font>, 4 folds, SB calls $3, BB folds

Flop: ($8) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $6</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $15</font>, Hero calls $9

Turn: ($38) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $24</font>, Hero calls $24

River: ($86) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $86</font>, Hero ????


villain is 21/9/2

put him either 44/KQ/AK on flop

then when the 4 paired on turn i ruled out 44. should i have still folded on turn as his AF is only 2???
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Old 10-21-2007, 09:28 PM
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Default Re: NL 100 - TPTK marginal spot

this is pretty meh. do you have any kind of notes or gut feelings about the villain? i think i just fold this river, as the only hands i can put him on that we dont lose to are AK or air, like j 10 or something. i probably play the hand before the river the same FWIW
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Old 10-21-2007, 09:45 PM
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Default Re: NL 100 - TPTK marginal spot

Looks like KQ. I think I'd fold it as it's such a strong line.
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Old 10-21-2007, 09:47 PM
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Default Re: NL 100 - TPTK marginal spot

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put him either 44/KQ/AK on flop


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so with only 26% equity against his range why call on the flop?
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Old 10-21-2007, 09:55 PM
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Default Re: NL 100 - TPTK marginal spot

Your hand is pretty obvious, so he is loudly declaring that (a) he can beat AK/AA, and (b) his has isn't strong enough to slowplay to the turn.

So probably 2p. Unless you have reason to think that he would bluff this hard, or play a JT draw this hard (and it doesn't sound like you do), he pretty much has you beat.

I think your two choices are folding on the flop, maybe turn, or 3-bet the flop hard to represent a monster. The latter option also assumes something about the size of your underpants.
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Old 10-21-2007, 10:07 PM
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Default Re: NL 100 - TPTK marginal spot

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3-bet the flop hard to represent a monster. The latter option also assumes something about the size of your underpants.

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top 2 or set doesn't fold nearly often enough to risk $100 for $29
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Old 10-22-2007, 03:47 AM
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Default Re: NL 100 - TPTK marginal spot

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Your hand is pretty obvious, so he is loudly declaring that (a) he can beat AK/AA ,

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u do realize that AA is a HUUUUUUUUUUUGE difference here, right? give the board pair down low

as played....i hate this spot. i think im folding the river. strength of villians line is crazy.

and i agree that range on the flop is KQ/44 often. i dont rly think AK is there tho. so ur pretty smoked on the flop. i guess i fold the turn being i cant see us beating much more than JT, which i dont think we will b shown here nearly enuff to turn a profit
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Old 10-22-2007, 03:54 AM
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Default Re: NL 100 - TPTK marginal spot

as played I fold the turn. you beat nothing but KJ/air and I don't think villain shows up with those a lot taking this line.
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Old 10-22-2007, 09:25 AM
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Default Re: NL 100 - TPTK marginal spot

normally i would fold turn but as bottom card paired does that not take 44 out of the equation??
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Old 10-21-2007, 10:08 PM
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Default Re: NL 100 - TPTK marginal spot

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put him either 44/KQ/AK on flop


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so with only 26% equity against his range why call on the flop?

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This was my first thought. I may add J10 to his range also.
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