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Old 10-18-2007, 12:05 PM
jkkkk jkkkk is offline
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Default omg but I have trips!

5/10 in the bellagio, full table, I've only just sat down I think its literally my 4th hand or something. Villain looks like a typical grinder; young/unshaven/headphones. 1000 effective.

I make it $50 utg+1 w/ AKo, 4 callers including SB (villain).

flop (250): KKQr

we all check.

turn (250): 2o

checks to me, I bet 130, folds to SB who makes it 300, I call.

river (850): 7

he shoves, I?


In retrospect I probably should of bet the flop as I'm most likely getting action from any Kx or Qx, anyway, thoughts?
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Old 10-18-2007, 12:28 PM
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Default Re: omg but I have trips!

easy flop bet...especially live-they are all stations except for this guy

who prolly has 222 or KQ
id say this is an easy fold without any strong evidence to the contrary
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Old 10-18-2007, 12:29 PM
WelshChip WelshChip is offline
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Default Re: omg but I have trips!

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easy flop bet...especially live-they are all stations except for this guy

who prolly has 222 or KQ
id say this is an easy fold without any strong evidence to the contrary

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Old 10-18-2007, 12:36 PM
KingGordy KingGordy is offline
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Default Re: omg but I have trips!

I would definately bet the flop. As played call the river, but I probably don't feel fantastic about it any more.
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Old 10-18-2007, 12:52 PM
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Default Re: omg but I have trips!

Sick..I think the same thing would have happened if you bet the flop too though. I personally don't like the call on the turn, looks like a fold/shove there IMO, you put the bet out to see where you were, and you found out real fast, dump it...KQ ftw
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Old 10-18-2007, 01:09 PM
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I personally don't like the call on the turn, looks like a fold/shove there IMO, you put the bet out to see where you were, and you found out real fast, dump it...KQ ftw

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plz ban
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Old 10-18-2007, 01:22 PM
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Default Re: omg but I have trips!

wow @ this thread.
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Old 10-18-2007, 01:27 PM
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Default Re: omg but I have trips!

I think I make a crying call on the river. Villain's line is kind of weird if he has KQ.. going for two checkraises and shoving the river. I can see 22 or 77 doing this, but I don't think he puts you on a K either given your flop check.

On the other hand, if there's no history and it's the 4th hand, this is a little less likely to be air.

I agree with others, definitely bet the flop though.

The thing that's getting me is that I'm not sure he gives you a K here.
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Old 10-20-2007, 06:36 AM
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Default Re: omg but I have trips!

I definitely should of bet the flop, does no one put this guy on KJ/KT/K9 at all?
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Old 10-20-2007, 08:08 AM
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Default Re: omg but I have trips!

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I definitely should of bet the flop, does no one put this guy on KJ/KT/K9 at all?

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Yeah, it's possible because of the way you slow played the flop. Maybe he thinks you have AQ and will call his KT ai--dunno, very difficult with no reads. Your slow play on the flop is likely a more serious error than whether you call the river now. If you had bet the flop, I think he'd be less inclined to bluff JT or shove KT--and thereby giving you an easier read.

As played, I suspect it's marginal positive or negative EV. Personally, I don't like to make high variance plays on highly speculative EV situations. Maybe it's nitty, but I'd like to get a little more information before I make this call--that way I can be more certain if the call is slightly positive or slightly negative EV. So, I think I'd fold.
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