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You limp early on with Ks. Someone puts in a 3-5 times BB raise. You are out of position and its HU. Where do you go from here? A push typically gets called at least 25% of the time regardless of what the other guy has (in low limit). I usually push because it gets sticky on the flop when an A comes and out of position. Thoughts on what’s more profitable?
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I dont think that a push typically gets called at least 25% of the times against a regular preflop raise, especially after you limped early, but if it does, there probably isn't a more profitable move than that.
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You are not even mentioning stack sizes
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I had actually omitted some details in hopes of spawning some discussions on times when it is better either way.
Perhaps 25% is a little bit high. But if you add in a caller or two after the raise, 25% for 1 person to call might even be low. Occasionally, you get 2 callers. I am typically talking a 7 - 9 handed game; .25/.50 game; Range of stacks can be $5 - $50. I usually buy-in for max, so it doesnt matter to me much what the raiser has in his rack. As long as he doesn't have AA, I am fine getting my money in before the flop if he has $5 - $50. If he has a little, I think he is more inclinded to call, but if he has $50, you have a much greater chance of taking a big loss after the flop, if you just call and he hits trips, 2 pair, the case A, etc. I ask this question because I feel like I have been getting bullied out of pots and laying down Ks too much when I have the best hand. |
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I wouldn't limp from EP first of all because re-raising looks really awkward against a raise from MP/LP (even at .25/.50). Playing fancy like this to any remotely savvy player will typically scream that you slow played a big pp. I would instead recommend either light-raising (like 2.5 BB) or raising extra-heavy. Either way, you set yourself up for a big score, in the former because people will easily re-raise you often and you are controlling the pot-size (and then your 4-bet doesn't look so weird) and the later because (unless they have AA) they are making a call with thin implied odds.
With respect to your specific question, however, I still don't recommend the shove unless you are playing HU against a shorty. Of course you 3-bet here, and pretty heavily, but you want to give the guy enough of a leash to hang himself on, not shut down the action. It seems like it would be pretty easy to pot-commit the raiser here with a good re-raise anyhow, and if the flop comes Ace high and your opponent open-shoves into you, you might be able to make a big laydown still. Shoving could still be good if you know your opponents too, but I somehow think you aren't maximizing your EV in this situation since I think your re-raise as opposed to shove probably gets a call much more often. |
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you're in a .25/.50 game, stop thinking and play like a robot. Robots don't limp EP with KK.
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I wouldn't limp from EP first of all because re-raising looks really awkward against a raise from MP/LP (even at .25/.50). Playing fancy like this to any remotely savvy player will typically scream that you slow played a big pp. I would instead recommend either light-raising (like 2.5 BB) or raising extra-heavy. Either way, you set yourself up for a big score, in the former because people will easily re-raise you often and you are controlling the pot-size (and then your 4-bet doesn't look so weird) and the later because (unless they have AA) they are making a call with thin implied odds. [/ QUOTE ] |
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