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Old 10-14-2007, 02:46 AM
SilentNoise SilentNoise is offline
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Default 3 handed 200BB deep;; Is my hand too good to raise anywhere?

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Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 3 Players
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BB: $34.20
Hero (BTN): $446.70
SB: $796.30

Pre-Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $8</font>, SB calls $7, BB folds

Flop: ($18) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $11</font>, Hero calls $11

Turn: ($40) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $22</font>, Hero calls $22 (should i have raised here instead? wouldn't it kind of suck to get 3bet though? -- that was my justification for just calling)

River: ($84) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $27</font>, Hero folds right?

Villain is a 35/11 ...seems like a bit of a calling station, got his stack from just coolering people with sets over sets, house vs trips n stuff like that.

I didn't raise the flop since i thought that if he was just taking a random stab since the board was dry, he would probably give up on the turn. Since he carried on firing on the turn i figured he must actually have a decent hand. since i had a pair+straight draw+flush draw, i felt that if i raised and he reraised again i wouldn't wanna put all that money in on the turn ,,,so i thought id call again just to see what the river brings.

would you prefer raising the turn or calling?

river is a standard fold i guess? I am getting like 3.5-1 or something...but i guess im right like 0% of the time so that doesn't matter.

do you like raising flop here as a semibluff, or do you prefer betting if he checks the turn instead? by doing this i can try and get him off a medium pair...but maybe i shouldn't even bother trying to do that against him.

i thought floating the flop is better since it allows me to pick up some extra backdoor draws maybe, or hit 2pr/trips...without me getting raised off my hand. then on the turn i didn't want to get raised off my hand either.

thoughts?
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Old 10-14-2007, 03:08 AM
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Default Re: 3 handed 200BB deep;; Is my hand too good to raise anywhere?

I would raise the turn. You have a shitton of outs, position, deep stacks and fold equity.
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Old 10-14-2007, 03:36 AM
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Default Re: 3 handed 200BB deep;; Is my hand too good to raise anywhere?

since hes a calling station, isn't there little fold equity? what makes you think i have alot of fold equity here?

since i have alot of outs, and getting 3-1 on a river card, wouldn't it be pretty annoying if i got 3bet and then have to fold? im getting more than the pot odds i need anyway.

i also have position and deepstacks making it easier to extract the most amount of money if i do hit.

Since stacks are deep, isn't that a reason NOT to raise the turn? Since raising doesn't commit yourself, and it lets villain 3bet and price you out of your draw.
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Old 10-14-2007, 08:53 AM
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Default Re: 3 handed 200BB deep;; Is my hand too good to raise anywhere?

If he's a station then calling the turn is fine. I'd fold river.
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Old 10-14-2007, 09:04 AM
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Default Re: 3 handed 200BB deep;; Is my hand too good to raise anywhere?

cos hes a station turn call looks good, hopefully he will pay off big on the river if you get there anyway.
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Old 10-14-2007, 10:40 AM
Nick Royale Nick Royale is offline
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Default Re: 3 handed 200BB deep;; Is my hand too good to raise anywhere?

I think raising the turn is pretty bad. We have sd-value and a huge draw, don't know why we would turn it into a bluff. He won't fold many better hands unless we're willing to follow up with a big, sketchy river bluff. And we're deep so we hate getting 3-bet on the turn.
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Old 10-14-2007, 03:45 PM
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Default Re: 3 handed 200BB deep;; Is my hand too good to raise anywhere?

i think raising the turn is the best option. you have to fold if he shoves, but that is unlikely 200 BB's deep. you can raise and have the odds to see a river if he 3bets.
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Old 10-14-2007, 04:03 PM
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Default Re: 3 handed 200BB deep;; Is my hand too good to raise anywhere?

I play it exactly the same, against a station.
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Old 10-14-2007, 04:06 PM
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Old 10-14-2007, 04:12 PM
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Default Re: 3 handed 200BB deep;; Is my hand too good to raise anywhere?

readzie,
why flame him?
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