Are 3$ rebuy players capable of squeezing?

kerk · #1 10-12-2007, 11:27 PM

Full Tilt Poker, NL Hold'em Tournament, 500/1,000 Blinds, 125 Ante, 9 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: 48,810
UTG: 39,767
UTG+1: 15,225
UTG+2: 24,049
MP1: 26,620
Hero (MP2): 49,195
CO: 5,283
BTN: 29,386
SB: 33,313

Pre-Flop: (2,625) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP2)
4 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to 4,625</font>, CO folds, BTN calls 4,625, SB calls 4,125, <font color="red">BB raises to 20,000</font>,

erc007 · #2 10-12-2007, 11:43 PM

This looks pretty scary to me...BB has ~50BBs and has 3-bet almost 1/2 his stack.

kerk · #3 10-12-2007, 11:48 PM

I know. thats what im afraid of. BUt its such a perfect opportunity to squeeze. This is right neaer the bubble as well. I just dont konw how many 3$ rebuy players are capable of this.

ch0ppy · #4 10-12-2007, 11:55 PM

they are probably not capable, but they probably think KJ KQ are good here :P

erc007 · #5 10-13-2007, 12:09 AM

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they are probably not capable, but they probably think KJ KQ are good here :P

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lol...is matt leveling here... he may need to play some 20/180's to win a TLB sometime soon.

ASPoker8 · #6 10-13-2007, 05:46 AM

raise to 2500-3000 preflop, 4625 is godawful

as played, fold

donquay · #7 10-12-2007, 11:56 PM

I'd probably let it go without a read because it does look scary enough...and if you shove I don't like the possibility that button or sb will call also (either they're good and flatted a monster hoping to induce a squeeze, or they're bad enough to flat call for such a big chunk of their stack so they'll gamble and call)...I don't like TT in this situation.

why did you raise so much? the only way I think TT has a chance of being good is if villains see your pfr as a steal attempt by a small PP and doesn't want action so bb can squeeze wider.

kerk · #8 10-12-2007, 11:59 PM

i raised so big because of anti's. plus im not great with 99/TT postflop

Sherman · #9 10-13-2007, 02:24 PM

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i raised so big because of anti's. plus im not great with 99/TT postflop

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While you are correct that you should often adjust your PF raise amount up as the money in the pot to start the hand goes up, you are forgetting that larger blinds and antes lead to smaller effective stacks in tournaments. Smaller effective stacks means that SMALLER PF raises become more optimal.

Therefore, unless you are trying to manipulate the pot-size, you have no real reason here to make such a large raise. 2.5-3.0xBB should be fine here.

Also, the fact that you don't feel comfortable playing 99/TT PF so you raise more makes you extremely exploitable. I always shove JJ against an over-sized raise like this b/c it is never AA-QQ and is always 88-TT. The thought process you are using here (raise more with my medium strength hands) is not a good one. It will lead to you getting all the worse hands to fold and the stronger hands to call.

As played, you should fold.

Sherman