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Old 10-11-2007, 06:38 PM
Chipchucker5 Chipchucker5 is offline
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Default 15k gtd on FT: AQ, two barrel semibluff?

I'm new to the table, and I don't recognize villain. Is this a good spot to be aggro or just spewy?

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t40 (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Hero (t3385)
UTG (t5776)
UTG+1 (t3652)
MP1 (t540)
MP2 (t2504)
MP3 (t1854)
CO (t4364)
Button (t1570)
SB (t1263)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to t140</font>, CO calls t140, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t600</font>, MP3 folds, CO calls t460.

Flop: (t1360) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t800</font>, CO calls t800.

Turn: (t2960) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t1985 (All-In)</font>
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Old 10-11-2007, 07:13 PM
Dunkman Dunkman is offline
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Default Re: 15k gtd on FT: AQ, two barrel semibluff?

What do you put CO on? My guess is like 88-JJ, and I don't think he folds that on the turn often after making it this far with it.
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Old 10-11-2007, 07:49 PM
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chip...he raised 3.5X and called your 15 X raise pre...what do you think he has? Alo raise pre seems wayyyy too much...in fact in BB I would either just call or fold here...why build a monstr pot with AQ OOP? Once you did that I like the flop bet but that's all she wrote...villan calls 1400 I don't think they will fold anywhere down the line...just dont see the point in such an aggressive move without reads and this early
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Old 10-11-2007, 09:05 PM
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chip...he raised 3.5X and called your 15 X raise pre...what do you think he has? Alo raise pre seems wayyyy too much...in fact in BB I would either just call or fold here...why build a monstr pot with AQ OOP? Once you did that I like the flop bet but that's all she wrote...villan calls 1400 I don't think they will fold anywhere down the line...just dont see the point in such an aggressive move without reads and this early

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Think we are on same wave lengths today ssync, I am too tired to right something as good as you wrote so I will just continue to quote you. I think calling is a good move as well. I have also found that flops like those are absolutly terrible to c-bet, people are floating you and you are never getting a pair to fold. I like to check it, and if I hit an A on the turn barring no outstanding draws, check/call turn and lead river, making it look like a bluff. As ssync said preflop raise is way too much, calling is better. Flop and turn are spewing.
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Old 10-11-2007, 09:09 PM
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chip...he raised 3.5X and called your 15 X raise pre...what do you think he has? Alo raise pre seems wayyyy too much...in fact in BB I would either just call or fold here...why build a monstr pot with AQ OOP? Once you did that I like the flop bet but that's all she wrote...villan calls 1400 I don't think they will fold anywhere down the line...just dont see the point in such an aggressive move without reads and this early

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Think we are on same wave lengths today ssync, I am too tired to right something as good as you wrote so I will just continue to quote you. I think calling is a good move as well. I have also found that flops like those are absolutly terrible to c-bet, people are floating you and you are never getting a pair to fold. I like to check it, and if I hit an A on the turn barring no outstanding draws, check/call turn and lead river, making it look like a bluff. As ssync said preflop raise is way too much, calling is better. Flop and turn are spewing.

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coz...thanks for the vote of confidence...worst part is I'm seeing the game as well as ever (I hope) but hit a brick wall when actually playing...I tend to review my hands pretty closely and I think I'm playing the same as when I am winning so the mighty bitch variance has decided to come after me...

Taking the weekend off which is hard for an addict like me so my jones is coming through the forum!!!
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Old 10-11-2007, 09:20 PM
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Default Re: 15k gtd on FT: AQ, two barrel semibluff?

Dont' like it....call preflop, c/f flop
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Old 10-11-2007, 11:41 PM
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chip...he raised 3.5X and called your 15 X raise pre...what do you think he has? Alo raise pre seems wayyyy too much...in fact in BB I would either just call or fold here...why build a monstr pot with AQ OOP? Once you did that I like the flop bet but that's all she wrote...villan calls 1400 I don't think they will fold anywhere down the line...just dont see the point in such an aggressive move without reads and this early

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Think we are on same wave lengths today ssync, I am too tired to right something as good as you wrote so I will just continue to quote you. I think calling is a good move as well. I have also found that flops like those are absolutly terrible to c-bet, people are floating you and you are never getting a pair to fold. I like to check it, and if I hit an A on the turn barring no outstanding draws, check/call turn and lead river, making it look like a bluff. As ssync said preflop raise is way too much, calling is better. Flop and turn are spewing.

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coz...thanks for the vote of confidence...worst part is I'm seeing the game as well as ever (I hope) but hit a brick wall when actually playing...I tend to review my hands pretty closely and I think I'm playing the same as when I am winning so the mighty bitch variance has decided to come after me...

Taking the weekend off which is hard for an addict like me so my jones is coming through the forum!!!

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Thats cool, taking a break for me when I get frustrated or worn out is awesome because I find myself thinking better when I come back to it. I also use this forum alot when I am on breaks, keeps me thinking about the game. Have a good weekend. I think you are a pretty good poster, so just keep grinding it out and hopefully things will work out for both of us.
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Old 10-12-2007, 04:53 AM
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chip...he raised 3.5X and called your 15 X raise pre...what do you think he has? Alo raise pre seems wayyyy too much...in fact in BB I would either just call or fold here...why build a monstr pot with AQ OOP? Once you did that I like the flop bet but that's all she wrote...villan calls 1400 I don't think they will fold anywhere down the line...just dont see the point in such an aggressive move without reads and this early

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First, it's even worse... You misread the post, Villain in this hand is CO, who cold-called the opening raise of 3.5xBB and then also cold-called OP's re-raise. It's bad to take such an aggressive line with a bluff against a PF raiser, but it's even more bad to do against someone who cold-called twice pre-flop. I can't put Villain on any other hand than mid/strong PP, and he's clearly not folding. Of course, there's always a remote chance Villain played AJ-AK badly or he's folding a mid pair, but they won't do it often enough to make this play +EV.

OP, I limit my two-barrelling to situations when I open-raise and get one caller... Also, I think stack sizes are not perfect to re-raise with AQ and having to play OOP. Calling or shoving is better than raising IMO.
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Old 10-12-2007, 07:56 AM
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Default Re: 15k gtd on FT: AQ, two barrel semibluff?

Your PFR is too big. I'd make it about 450-500 to go and then 1/2-2/3 pot CBET on the flop. Once he calls, I shut down. CO is easily holding a mid-PP here and doesn't buy your story.
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Old 10-11-2007, 09:33 PM
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Default Re: 15k gtd on FT: AQ, two barrel semibluff?

If you're going to squeeze here, make it 900 pre and open-shove any flop.
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