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Old 10-11-2007, 02:03 PM
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Default NL 200: Value with AA

Villain is 18/7/2 over 60 hands. I just was dealt AA in back to back hands so its quite possible he is playing back at me because of how aggressive i have been.

My question is, based on his turn and river bets, what hand range are we putting him on and is there a bigger value somewhere in here.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 ($93.75)
Hero ($204)
CO ($137.20)
Button ($190.75)
SB ($258.45)
BB ($226.75)
UTG ($212.15)
UTG+1 ($298.15)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $2, MP1 calls $2, <font color="#CC3333">Hero|MPB raises to $14</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls $10, MP1 folds.

Flop: ($29) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero|MPB bets $24</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $72</font>, Hero|MPB calls $24.

Turn: ($125) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets $20</font>, Hero|MPB calls $20.

River: ($165) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets $16</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero|MPB raises to $60</font>, UTG+1 calls $28.

Final Pot: $253
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Old 10-11-2007, 02:14 PM
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Default Re: NL 200: Value with AA

I'd shove the turn as played, but usually just get it in on the flop. River action is messed up in the converter, but if you want to raise I think it should just be allin since he'll be getting like 4 to 1.
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Old 10-11-2007, 02:15 PM
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Default Re: NL 200: Value with AA

If hes betting this small do you think hes going to call a river shove?
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Old 10-11-2007, 03:07 PM
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Default Re: NL 200: Value with AA

No other thoughts on this hand?
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Old 10-11-2007, 04:20 PM
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Default Re: NL 200: Value with AA

I like the the turn call. You tricked him and made him thought you were drawing or had overcards like AK. Then river you confused him again and actually raised for value. He would think you were bluff raising and call you light with something like 44. Well played except you could raise it to 99 on river and extracted more value.
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Old 10-11-2007, 05:30 PM
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Default Re: NL 200: Value with AA

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I like the the turn call. You tricked him and made him thought you were drawing or had overcards like AK. Then river you confused him again and actually raised for value. He would think you were bluff raising and call you light with something like 44. Well played except you could raise it to 99 on river and extracted more value.

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I think if this small turn bet means blocking bet for cheap river then you are digging grave for self.
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Old 10-11-2007, 06:26 PM
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Default Re: NL 200: Value with AA

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I like the the turn call. You tricked him and made him thought you were drawing or had overcards like AK. Then river you confused him again and actually raised for value. He would think you were bluff raising and call you light with something like 44. Well played except you could raise it to 99 on river and extracted more value.

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NLHE is NOT about tricking people by horribly misplaying your hand. Your object should not be to extract maximum value from the worst end of villains range.
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Old 10-11-2007, 06:24 PM
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Default Re: NL 200: Value with AA

Since when are you playing NL200? you were playing NL50 last time I looked.

His big flop craise makes it look like he has a strong hand, then he makes a really small raise on the turn which is inconsistent with a strong hand. Either he has a draw and is trying to draw for cheap or he no longer likes his hand much after you called.

I think you need to raise all in on the turn. Failing that I think you need to raise all in on the river although I dont like it as much as the turn, after all the heart got there and you cant charge draws.
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Old 10-11-2007, 06:29 PM
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Default Re: NL 200: Value with AA

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I think you need to raise all in on the turn.

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100% agree. ur hand seems very wobbly right now (somewhere between str8 bluff and big hand) also, i like the charge draws on the turn which it seems villian is very easily on. also, given ur image, i think u stack a wide range of hands. so turn push seems lovely to me
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