Aggression check: Semibluff 2OCs+gutshot turn? 3-barrel scare card A?

[Mitke]

Poker Room skin Limit Holdem Ring game Limit: $3/$6 5 players

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, Hero raises, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6SB, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB folds.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4BB, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls.

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6BB, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero ??

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Against a loose-passive-passive...

A) should we semibluff turn?
B) do we 3-barrel river?

Against a tight-aggressive-aggressive...

C) should we semibluff turn?
D) do we 3-barrel river?


(E: And preflop is bad, right.)

[Leader]

a) yes
b) depends on how loose; mostly no. He has to fold K-high
c) yes
d) mostly
e) no

[Athelas]

3-barrel
Against a loose-passive-passive: Never
Against a tight-aggressive-aggressive: More likely to succeed, but will it work 2:9 times?

Edit: Didn't notice question a and c [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
I always bet this on the river.

[Oink]

a) Yes
b) You beat most busted straight draws except JT. This really mitigates the value of a semibluff. So I wouldnt against a loose passive

c) I wouldnt. When a TAG peels that flop with those odds not closing the action he either has a fd or a good straight draw. I cant see what better hands he is folding.

d) Again, you beat most busted straight draws.


e) Fine vs a fish less fine vs a TAG in SB. But given the action SB is never a TAG.


Finally. In a rake heavy game I would definetely muck J9o in the CO

[sharpie]

I think this is an easy 3 barrel against most. There are busted clubs as well as JT, and a loose passive can even have crap like K6s. If a TAG gets to the river here I'm a little confused, but I expect most to 3 bet Ax that they play PF, and he should've put in more action with a made hand. I think he'll show up with a hand like JTs or Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] often enough.