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Old 10-11-2007, 03:02 AM
Bob T. Bob T. is offline
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Default Bob T. is in the well.

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A stranger is being shown around a village that he has just become part of. He is shown a well and his guide says "On any day except Wednesday, you can shout any question down that well and you'll be told the answer".

The man seems pretty impressed, and so he shouts down: Why not on Wednesday? and the voice from in the well shouts back: Because on Wednesday, it’s your day in the well.


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I am having arthroscopic surgery, including the microfracture surgery in the morning. My doctor says that I have to sit out the 2007-2008 NBA season. When I get home, and am sufficiently recovered from the anesthesia, I will respond to as many questions as I possibly can.
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Old 10-11-2007, 03:07 AM
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Thanks for going in the well, Bob.

What games can you usually be found in at Canterbury? How often do you play? Do you play online?

Do you plan on moving up anytime soon?

My participation in the forums is a result of thinking that I was better than I actually was for a long time. I ran well for a solid year, built a bankroll and several months ago finally went broke. It has been a long haul, but I now recognize my leaks and I feel like I have really turned a corner in my game just in that I am here participating everyday and trying to get better. Do you have a story like that at all? What got you into poker and and how has your game and poker career changed and fluctuated over the years?
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Old 10-11-2007, 05:04 PM
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What games can you usually be found in at Canterbury? How often do you play? Do you play online?


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Usually the 8-16 on Tuesday mornings. Maybe one other time during the week. 3500+ hands per week online.

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Do you plan on moving up anytime soon?


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Online, I think it is going to be harder and harder to move up, unless the UIGEA gets repealed.

Live, I hope so.

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My participation in the forums is a result of thinking that I was better than I actually was for a long time. I ran well for a solid year, built a bankroll and several months ago finally went broke. It has been a long haul, but I now recognize my leaks and I feel like I have really turned a corner in my game just in that I am here participating everyday and trying to get better. Do you have a story like that at all? What got you into poker and and how has your game and poker career changed and fluctuated over the years?

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Hmmm, a lot of factors go into my game.

When I was in high School, I played Chess, I was average at it, because my brain just didn't work well for the type of analysis that Chess required. Eventually, I started playing tournament bridge, and I was very good at that. Somewhere along the way, I started playing some poker, also. Bridge players sometimes like to play games where it isn't there damn partner's fault . My sophomore year at college, my summer job fell through, and I ended up paying for that year playing poker in the dorms. Even though I went to a private college, I was able to get a huge edge in those games, because noone else went through the trouble to do a lot of arithmatic, that let me develop strategies that were a lot better than my opponents strategies.

After college, I played in occasional home games, just because I like games. There was one other period, where I was unemployed, and supported myself in home games.

Somewhere along this time, I decided that I could play card games when I was older, but I wanted to become a lot better soccer player, so I stopped playing bridge and poker, and just concentrated on soccer. I played and coached soccer for about 25 years.

During this time I got a job in the research department of a major corporation, doing experimental design, and analysis, and also some interface design and other human factors work. During a downturn there, I got laid off, and went to work for a consulting company. A couple of years later, both of our major clients had a simultaneous downturn in business, and we were back to square one. At that time, one of my friends from the bridge said that he thought that I would make a good trader, because people that play games well, frequently could trade well. So I leased a seat on the Minneapolis grain exchange, and traded for my own account for a year. The good news, I survived for a year. The bad news, the size of my trading account, and the size of my nut, meant that I had to make a very large return on my account every month. After about a year, some volatility got me, and I was out. But I learned a lot, and I also survived a lot longer than the average undercapitalized trader.

I started working at Mystic, and about that time, I realized that my knees no longer were going to allow me to play soccer, so I started playing in home games again. Sometime after that, it was announced that Canterbury was going to open a cardroom, and I decided that I better learn this 'holdem'.

When I started playing HE, I learned that tight kept you out of trouble, amd so I played really tight. I learned a tight formula, that worked, especially in really loose games. Around this time, I found 2+2, and as a result of this, I started finding a lot more places where I could find value. I would say that over the last seven years, I have been constantly changing my game because I am learning more, and because the game is changing.
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Old 10-11-2007, 08:32 AM
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Default Re: Bob T. is in the well.

who is your world series pick?

will the yanks sign arod?

if you had to pick one piece of poker advice to give experienced players, what would it be?
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Old 10-11-2007, 04:24 PM
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who is your world series pick?


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This year, the Indians. I think their first three pitchers are just scary.

Every year, my dad used to buy a $10 futures ticket for the twins. Needless to say, he was way ahead over his lifetime, because the two years they won it, they were at very long odds. I think in 91 his ticket was for 200-1. So I do the same thing every year just to remember him.

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will the yanks sign arod?


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They seem like a very dysfunctional family right now. It is hard to guess, but despite his postseason woes the last 3 or 4 years, I believe that they should do everything that they can to resign him. I think the one weakness that the yankees have had over the years, is that they sign bats, regardless whether on not the guys can play defense. A-Rod is a huge bat, and is far from the Yankees biggest defensive liability.

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if you had to pick one piece of poker advice to give experienced players, what would it be?

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It's a game. Have fun.
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Old 10-11-2007, 09:30 AM
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Default Re: Bob T. is in the well.

i think it would be pretty sweet to get at least one answer from you before you've fully recovered from the anesthesia.

you're one of the few posters that has been around small stakes since the 2002 upgrade(and likely before).

you've likely seen alot of names come and go over that period of time. does any post or couple of posts stand out as "defining moments" in the history of this forum? any personal faves or turning points for you as a player?

who is your fav. 2p2 poster of all time?
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Old 10-11-2007, 11:14 AM
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Hey Bob, really enjoy your very informative posts.

1. Tell us about your beginning journey as a live player. How long did you stay at what limits and how long before you moved on up?

2. What was the limit that you found that there were some good players in the game?

3. Anything about bankroll management wisdom that you can lay on us?

4. When you took shots at higher limits what did you buy in for generally?

5. Favorite poker Book?

6. Angelina Jolie or Pamela Anderson?
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Old 10-11-2007, 01:02 PM
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Default Re: Bob T. is in the well.

As a MN player I have some unique questions here.

@ CP What levels which you have played lately have been especially juicy, which have been dry? I play everything up to 8/16 with most of my time being spent @ 4/8 but lately I've been playing 3/6 bc the games have been amazingly good where the 4/8s have been way tight.

2)With the current rake structure @ CP are games like 3/6 and 2/4 beatable long term?

3)In regards to live play what are the most recent changes you have made in your game to increase your winrate

4)At what level @ CP do you think solid LAG play is a winning style. I don't think it could ever work @ 2/4 3/6 and even some lineups all the way up to 8/16 bc you get looked up way to much.

5) I'm going to Mille Lacs today and probably will be playing 3/6 full kill how much will I win or lose in terms of dollars... :P
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Old 10-12-2007, 01:54 AM
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@ CP What levels which you have played lately have been especially juicy, which have been dry? I play everything up to 8/16 with most of my time being spent @ 4/8 but lately I've been playing 3/6 bc the games have been amazingly good where the 4/8s have been way tight.


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I haven't played the 3/6 or 4/8 for a while. But it seemed to me, that the 4/8 usually had a lot more GAMBOOL! in it.

For some reason, when I play in the 6-12 game, I find that it plays a lot tighter, and nittier than the 8-16. A lot of the time, the 6-12 violates one of my guidelines, which is 'don't play in any game with 8.5 old white guys in it.' ( I count myself as .5 old white guy.)

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)With the current rake structure @ CP are games like 3/6 and 2/4 beatable long term?


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Probably, because there is a lot of HORRIBLE play at those levels. But I can't imagine that you could make much more than $10/hour there, so you have to be playing for the entertainment, and not just the money.

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3)In regards to live play what are the most recent changes you have made in your game to increase your winrate


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Showing up.

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4)At what level @ CP do you think solid LAG play is a winning style. I don't think it could ever work @ 2/4 3/6 and even some lineups all the way up to 8/16 bc you get looked up way to much.


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I just play kind of nitty poker, until I notice that I don't get looked up. I think most of the regulars in the yellow chip games, think I am a value betting machine, so usually there is a point in the session, where I think they give me a licence to steal, and when I get there, I use it.

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5) I'm going to Mille Lacs today and probably will be playing 3/6 full kill how much will I win or lose in terms of dollars... :P

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You would probably win more if you played in the 2-10 game.
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Old 10-12-2007, 02:14 AM
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For some reason, when I play in the 6-12 game, I find that it plays a lot tighter, and nittier than the 8-16

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That's absolutely right. As soon as I'm comfortable with a roll to get out of 6/12, I'm getting. The reason for this is that a lot of the nitty white old guys don't like the GAMBOOL!!! in the 8/16, and they're not comfortable with or can't afford 15/30. This frustrates the hell out of me, which is why I don't play during the day on weekdays anymore. The games get more GAMBOOL!!! (much more!) at night and on the weekends.

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Usually the 8-16 on Tuesday mornings.

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Are you telling me that you're one of those guys that specifically shows up for Aces? Really?
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