Razz steal gets picked off

Alchemist · #1 10-10-2007, 03:56 PM

And I proceed to mangle it horribly. Should I just give it up on 4th?

Razz ($0.50/$1), Ante $0.10, Bring-In $0.15 (converter)

3rd Street - (1.40 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___brings-in___calls
Seat 2: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 3: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Hero: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___completes
Seat 5: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 6: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 8: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds

4th Street - (3.40 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets
Hero: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks___calls

5th Street - (2.70 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___raises
Hero: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets___calls

6th Street - (6.70 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets
Hero: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds

Total pot: (6.70 BB - $6.70)

RustyBrooks · #2 10-10-2007, 04:03 PM

Lay it down on 4th (you know that's the right thing to do)

If not then you must fold 5th.

roggles · #3 10-10-2007, 04:05 PM

c/c is the worst possible line to take on 4th

Alchemist · #4 10-10-2007, 04:06 PM

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Lay it down on 4th (you know that's the right thing to do)

If not then you must fold 5th.

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Any merit to betting 4th? Surely I would if I had a legit starting hand, plus he might have paired the 6. Either way it must be better than c/c.

roggles · #5 10-10-2007, 04:10 PM

There isn't really. If he didn't believe you before he won't now, and even if you have A2 in the hole it's pretty even at this point if he didn't pair his 6.

betgo · #6 10-10-2007, 04:50 PM

As played, I would check/fold 5th also. At least check/call.

HOWMANY · #7 10-10-2007, 04:58 PM

Either bet 4th or c/f.

pdiggz · #8 10-10-2007, 06:14 PM

Good play on 3rd to complete. c/f 4th. He's not folding this hand. He's given you all the info you need to know. Hardly cost you anything.

betgo · #9 10-10-2007, 06:53 PM

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Good play on 3rd to complete. c/f 4th. He's not folding this hand. He's given you all the info you need to know. Hardly cost you anything.

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Even if you had perfect hole cards, you would only be slight favorite. If a wheel card hit, it might be OK to fire again, hoping he paired. Villain's hand is pretty much face up on 4th, and has yours crushed. Check/call is really awful.

ChipsAhoya · #10 10-10-2007, 10:21 PM

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Either bet 4th or c/f.

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The problem w/ a bet in this particular hand is that you're not getting 4:1 to outflop them on 5th and you're losing the hand if you don't. Normally you can always bet 4th like this but you have to be ready to c/f 5th if they don't have two bricks out to your two good cards. Almost everyone folds if they have Q2K to your T74, although some people won't.

-ChipsAhoya