Still Learning, How Badly Did I Butcher This?

HotPockets · #1 10-09-2007, 09:14 PM

Is this a fold Preflop? If not, is it an open raise? Still trying to feel my way out. What about flop, is this a raise?

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.05.
2 folds, Hero calls, MP2 calls, 1 fold, CO (poster) checks, 2 folds, BB raises, Hero calls, MP2 calls, CO folds.

Flop: (7.40 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets, Hero calls, MP2 folds.

Turn: (4.70 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB calls.

River: (8.70 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB calls.

Final Pot: 12.70 B

Bulletproof Monk · #2 10-09-2007, 09:21 PM

err with a poster i basically never raise this. i think its a fold but with a loose passive game its ok to limp.

Landonfan · #3 10-09-2007, 09:40 PM

Eh, limping's ok if the game's passive. Everything else is fine.

kerowo · #4 10-09-2007, 11:28 PM

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err with a poster i basically never raise this. i think its a fold but with a loose passive game its ok to limp.

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Is the poster too far away to try and isolate with this pre-flop? I tend to at least think about isolating posters with hands like this.

Landonfan · #5 10-09-2007, 11:35 PM

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err with a poster i basically never raise this. i think its a fold but with a loose passive game its ok to limp.

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Is the poster too far away to try and isolate with this pre-flop? I tend to at least think about isolating posters with hands like this.

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If the poster's on your right, you can try this, but not here. Trying to isolate here is basically the same thing as open-raising it, except with an extra BB in the pot. Not a good idea imo.

bravos1 · #6 10-09-2007, 11:36 PM

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err with a poster i basically never raise this. i think its a fold but with a loose passive game its ok to limp.

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Is the poster too far away to try and isolate with this pre-flop? I tend to at least think about isolating posters with hands like this.

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We could try, but we have somethings against us:
1. We are still pretty early in MP1 and others still may come along
2. We are OOP vs poster
3. BB acts after poster PF thus if poster calls, BB is more likely to call.

bennyhana · #7 10-09-2007, 11:44 PM

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err with a poster i basically never raise this. i think its a fold but with a loose passive game its ok to limp.

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Is the poster too far away to try and isolate with this pre-flop? I tend to at least think about isolating posters with hands like this.

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how and why are you trying to isolate being oop?

OP, limping is fine, folding is ok, I think raising this at that limit without any reads on how the table is playing is too loose. Most guys will say open limping is bad, this is borderline I think. Weak suited Aces, meh, take em or leave em. I guess with the poster it's ok.

I really like the way you played the rest of the hand though.

kerowo · #8 10-10-2007, 12:29 AM

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err with a poster i basically never raise this. i think its a fold but with a loose passive game its ok to limp.

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Is the poster too far away to try and isolate with this pre-flop? I tend to at least think about isolating posters with hands like this.

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how and why are you trying to isolate being oop?

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I'd love to get rid of everyone but the poster and maybe the blinds here. Granted, this worked better when players payed scant attention to the table. I agree that basically this turns into a long distance steal which requires a pretty good read on table conditions.

Smurph64 · #9 10-10-2007, 01:18 AM

I don't see too much off here. Preflop raise changes things but limping with this in that kinda of game is probably safer.

flop call is correct considering the power of your hand is in the draws not the high card, you don't want the other player to fold out. He did anyways but many peel one.

Turn and river are of course correct.

Amaryllis · #10 10-09-2007, 11:34 PM

Why not raise the flop to get bigger Aces and splitting ones to fold.

Isolating posters was suggested earlier: Don't try that at this limit. Limping is fine in loose passive games.