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Old 10-09-2007, 11:37 AM
Rodolphe Rodolphe is offline
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Default 16$ : 33

2.5BB is good ? And what about limping ?

Call the shove ?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero (t1655)
CO (t1585)
Button (t1470)
SB (t865)
BB (t930)
UTG (t1905)
UTG+1 (t2940)
MP1 (t2150)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t250</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t865</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t615.

Flop: (t1830) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: (t1830) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t1830) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t1830
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Old 10-09-2007, 11:46 AM
Shortcorner Shortcorner is offline
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Default Re: 16$ : 33

I'm not mad about it tbh. I fold pre flop, i just think 33 is too weak to raise and as the blinds are as they are it is not porfitable for set value. I fold to reraise, you are either way behind or racing at best and still have plenty of chips. I like the fold pre the more i think about it, you might as well have been stealing with 72o. Too early to shove to late to limp, and i don't want to tangled with desperate shorties with 33.
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Old 10-09-2007, 11:56 AM
Rodolphe Rodolphe is offline
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Default Re: 16$ : 33

And what about this hand :

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero (t1310)
Button (t2670)
SB (t1385)
BB (t2835)
UTG (t1290)
UTG+1 (t1225)
MP1 (t1030)
MP2 (t1755)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t250</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Final Pot: t250
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Old 10-09-2007, 12:04 PM
Shortcorner Shortcorner is offline
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Default Re: 16$ : 33

Trickier

This is closer to a push fold decision but is still a fold, opponents would have to be incredibley tight for push to be profitable. If they all call with just top 9% it is -EV.

Again i fold. But i might be wrong on this. SPP don't take much heat.
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Old 10-09-2007, 12:08 PM
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Default Re: 16$ : 33

I like a fold in this spot.
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Old 10-09-2007, 12:11 PM
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Default Re: 16$ : 33

I typically agree with Shortcorner but I would raise with 33 as you did trying to steal IF I knew that the others were playing tight and going into their shell.

It's not a real hand, it's a stealing hand. SB pushes so I would go in with him. Win and you win his 860 AND boot him out!

If he raised with and was not goign all in I would fold.
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Old 10-10-2007, 04:41 AM
RexWoo RexWoo is offline
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Default Re: 16$ : 33

I fold preflop in both hand. The second is closer to a push imo because you're CO.
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