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Old 10-08-2007, 12:42 AM
ZJ123 ZJ123 is offline
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Default 200R, check or bet (if so how much) the river!!

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t1600 (8 handed) internettexasholdem.com

CO (t25370)
Button (t50582)
SB (t19611)
BB (t37704)
UTG (t66948)
Hero (t128715)
MP1 (t8813)
MP2 (t71094)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t4000</font>, Hero calls t4000, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>.

Flop: (t9050) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t6750</font>, Hero calls t6750.

Turn: (t22550) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: (t22550) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero...

vilian is Gbecks a good TAG.
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Old 10-08-2007, 12:43 AM
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Default Re: 200R, check or bet (if so how much) the river!!

I would check
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Old 10-08-2007, 12:50 AM
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Default Re: 200R, check or bet (if so how much) the river!!

44, 66, 77, 88 are the only hands that could call and you beat. JJ/QQ seem like the only hands that could call that could beat you.

If you bet small he won't call you with those small PPs so I'd bet 16k if I were to bet but I usually check because I don't think a hes hero calling that often.
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Old 10-08-2007, 01:06 AM
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Default Re: 200R, check or bet (if so how much) the river!!

I would check but bet with QQ
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Old 10-08-2007, 04:25 PM
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Default Re: 200R, check or bet (if so how much) the river!!

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I would check but bet with QQ

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Eagles,
Personally I would check as well. But was wondering how QQ is any different than TT in this specific sitiuation. Other that the fact that we now beat 2 more hands?
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Old 10-08-2007, 04:32 PM
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Default Re: 200R, check or bet (if so how much) the river!!

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I would check but bet with QQ

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Eagles,
Personally I would check as well. But was wondering how QQ is any different than TT in this specific sitiuation. Other that the fact that we now beat 2 more hands?

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those 2 hands make up a large portion of his range
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Old 10-08-2007, 04:39 PM
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Default Re: 200R, check or bet (if so how much) the river!!

I think check is best, it's certainly a close call, and I think in the moment with no reads or particularly important image the difference between betting and not betting here is timing tells.

All that being said, given that he raised UTG and got smooth called by UTG+1 is a "good TAG" really c-betting more than 2/3rds here with 66-88? Is he really calling off 1/2 pot bet on the river here with like AJ trying to pick off a busted FD much more often than he's just slowing down when the turn pairs the board with JJ/QQ/AA?

Against a good TAG I think as a default we have to prefer checking behind IMO.
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Old 10-08-2007, 01:36 AM
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Default Re: 200R, check or bet (if so how much) the river!!

8k value bet. There's a busted flush draw, so he might look you up with something worse. Oh, and call raise.
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Old 10-08-2007, 02:31 AM
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minbet for the win!!
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Old 10-08-2007, 02:45 AM
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Default Re: 200R, check or bet (if so how much) the river!!

i would also bet(like 14k) and be willing to call a raise.
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