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Old 10-07-2007, 02:30 AM
omaha omaha is offline
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Default AA vs turn check raise

Villain just sat down

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $30.04
UTG+1: $28.05
CO: $20.43
hero: $38.89
SB: $24.67
BB: $7.56

Pre-flop: (6 players) hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">hero raises to $1.25</font>, 2 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($2.85, 2 players)
UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">hero bets $2.25</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($7.35, 2 players)
UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">hero bets $4</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $13.5</font>, hero calls.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($34.35, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises all-in $13.04</font>, hero calls.

Results:

On the turn, i know i am in trouble, almost dead against a 10, but still beating the queens and kings.

What should my line be here? As you can prolly tell, i am just venturing out into deep stacked $ games.

My thinking is the turn should be a check, then call a decent bet on the river,

or i should bet the turn, then fold to a cr
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Old 10-07-2007, 02:49 AM
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Default Re: AA vs turn check raise

against most villain I check behind turn and call a river bet simply because getting c/r here is so ugly plus you induce a bluff on the river which is great.
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Old 10-07-2007, 03:56 AM
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Default Re: AA vs turn check raise

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against most villain I check behind turn and call a river bet simply because getting c/r here is so ugly plus you induce a bluff on the river which is great.

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the thing i have with this check behind is that u give a free card to a draw, i understand getting check raised is awful but a free card is also bad no?
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Old 10-07-2007, 04:00 AM
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Default Re: AA vs turn check raise

If one of the draws hits that boats me up, which is fine =)
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Old 10-07-2007, 04:05 AM
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Default Re: AA vs turn check raise

If the other one hits...?
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Old 10-07-2007, 04:08 AM
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Default Re: AA vs turn check raise

I think either way, betting the turn is fine, folding to a raise.
As played, fold.
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Old 10-07-2007, 04:09 AM
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Default Re: AA vs turn check raise

Need to bet more on the turn. Fold readless.
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Old 10-07-2007, 06:42 AM
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Default Re: AA vs turn check raise

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against most villain I check behind turn and call a river bet simply because getting c/r here is so ugly plus you induce a bluff on the river which is great.

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the thing i have with this check behind is that u give a free card to a draw, i understand getting check raised is awful but a free card is also bad no?

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Him drawing out here by being given a free card isn't that bad, atleast then you'd KNOW you were beat as supposed to being checkraised here and speculating a call. Ofcourse it is easy to say now. That doesn't warrant giving free cards ofcourse.

I would be folding this turn against most players.
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Old 10-07-2007, 02:51 AM
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Default Re: AA vs turn check raise

I'm new, but I think the problem is the turn. You bet out to see where you stand, when he shoots back over the top you got the answer you were looking for, and might put the hand away.
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Old 10-07-2007, 03:20 AM
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Default Re: AA vs turn check raise

i doubt villian has kk or qq after limping utg then calling a raise very often. checking the turn would be better. if you are going to be a 4 dollar bet here is bad. you're about pricing in the draws he could have esp. with implied odds. as played, if you call the turn c/r you have got to fold the river if he bets. if he's bad enough to do this with only a queen you'll find out soon and be able to adjust in the future.
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