Nl25 - Am I a station here with my QQ?

Ironic · #1 10-04-2007, 01:58 PM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($9.40)
UTG+1 ($14.65)
MP1 ($68.40)
MP2 ($15)
Hero ($24.15)
Button ($24.30)
SB ($12.65)
BB ($20.55)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. MP2 posts a blind of $0.25.
2 folds, MP1 raises to $1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $3.5, 3 folds, MP1 calls $2.50.

Flop: ($7.60) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 bets $1, Hero calls $1.

Turn: ($9.60) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 bets $1.25, Hero calls $1.25.

River: ($12.10) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 bets $1.5, Hero calls $1.50.

Final Pot: $15.10
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If I was first to act on the flop I would have put in a decent sized cbet but since he acted first calling seemed like the only option. I was really lost on this hand, I was praying for an ace not to come up.

Artsemis · #2 10-04-2007, 02:06 PM

He probably has a decent A here, something like AT. Calling is the worst play you could have made on that flop... he bet $1 into a $7.60 pot and you have position. I'm making it $5.50 or $6 to try and take it down. Just fold to a raise and shut down if he calls.

If you don't think he'll let go of an A then just fold... it's small bets, but he's not doing that without an A almost always.

AlexB182 · #3 10-04-2007, 02:10 PM

+1

Calling is by far the worst line here. Raise the flop and shut down against further resistance.

5string · #4 10-04-2007, 03:20 PM

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Calling is by far the worst line here. Raise the flop and shut down against further resistance.

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Ironic · #5 10-04-2007, 04:10 PM

Villain had JJ.

I forgot to mention stats. Villain was 50/10/1 over about 15 hands, which is a small sample size.

Thanks for the replies, interesting to read. I have decided I will raise this flop in future when I am this situation, it makes more sense to me. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Mike Kelley · #6 10-04-2007, 04:16 PM

Don't you think your line maximized value?

He probably folds the JJ if you raise.

RapidEvolution · #7 10-04-2007, 02:11 PM

Would a weak ace call a reraise OOP? I think it's equally likely that villain has 88, TT,JJ here and is "feeling" for an ace. I agree that raising the flop is goot. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

rdrr · #8 10-04-2007, 02:19 PM

If you're raising the flop here it's either a bluff or it's for value. Don't raise "for information". If you feel you are way ahead of his donk-bet/call range and/or he may fold a weak ace (which I doubt at NL25) or KK, then by all means, raise it up. Don't raise "to take it down now", it makes absolutely no sense, DUCY?

Mike Kelley · #9 10-04-2007, 02:22 PM

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If you're raising the flop here it's either a bluff or it's for value. Don't raise "for information". If you feel you are way ahead of his donk-bet/call range and/or he may fold a weak ace (which I doubt at NL25) or KK, then by all means, raise it up. Don't raise "to take it down now", it makes absolutely no sense, DUCY?

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What if he's betting to give himself the odds to draw at the flush?

rdrr · #10 10-04-2007, 02:25 PM

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If you're raising the flop here it's either a bluff or it's for value. Don't raise "for information". If you feel you are way ahead of his donk-bet/call range and/or he may fold a weak ace (which I doubt at NL25) or KK, then by all means, raise it up. Don't raise "to take it down now", it makes absolutely no sense, DUCY?

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What if he's betting to give himself the odds to draw at the flush?

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Then you are raising for value, not for him to fold.