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Old 10-04-2007, 10:12 AM
Mr. GQ Mr. GQ is offline
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Default AJo - Easy call?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t200/t400
(Ante: t50)
8 players
Converter

Seat 1: droghedapaul (14,542)
Seat 2: GQ9999 (7,720)
Seat 3: matt7898 (18,528)
Seat 5: woody37 (12,721)
Seat 6: flyingfalconer (19,660)
Seat 7: bobbyunger9 (12,718)
Seat 8: Mr Roeho (6,955)
Seat 9: fatmanscoop82 (62,477)

woody37 posts the small blind of 200
flyingfalconer posts the big blind of 400
The button is in seat #3



Pre-flop: (8 players)
GQ9999 is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

2 folds,
fatmanscoop82 calls t400 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t1000)</font>,
droghedapaul folds, <font color="#cc0000">
GQ9999 raises to t1600</font>,
matt7898 folds, <font color="#cc0000">
woody37 raises all-in t12671</font>.


What now? Why?
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Old 10-04-2007, 10:16 AM
BarryLyndon BarryLyndon is offline
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Default Re: AJo - Easy call?

I would have pushed this immediately without even thinking about raising. As played, it's much tougher, since his three bet seems like a narrow range of 1010+; AQ+. I don't konw - any reads? What did Fatmanscoop (redneck?) do? Did he call or fold? lol, kinduv important. I assume he folded.

I'm too lazy to do the math, but if he has any idea that are you committed here given the action, I probably let it go. Just push preflop next time.

Barry
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Old 10-04-2007, 10:21 AM
levAA levAA is offline
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Default Re: AJo - Easy call?

Barry already answered it -

With M=7 and AJ this is an easy push (if there are antes i think it's better to play with M and not with xBB) - you could also raise 3000, so it's easy to call a push.

As played here i would fold - you don't get the odds you need as you will be an underdog most of the times and likely to be dominated.
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Old 10-05-2007, 06:06 AM
willperkins willperkins is offline
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Default Re: AJo - Easy call?

I know I have big leaks in my game so please help.

Since he Mr. GQ gave us no info as to Fat or Woody's style, my thought process would have been like this:

My M=7.3

Fat limps (could have pp, Ax or broadway, who knows)

I would have just called to see the flop (costs me t400, and my M drops to 6.9)

Woody pushes (AK, AQ, big PP, bluff?)

I would probably fold and look for a better spot.

Is this the wrong approach for this situation?

Please advise!
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Old 10-05-2007, 11:08 AM
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Default Re: AJo - Easy call?

Why raise less? You got a limper.
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Old 10-04-2007, 10:25 AM
Dalek Dalek is offline
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Default Re: AJo - Easy call?

If ive got the math right your getting 3 to 2. I don't know the exact figures bu i'd call if the villains range is reasonably wide or if you've seen him do this before without a hand. If his range is 10s +,AQ+ then you have to fold.

This hand is mostly read dependant though.
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Old 10-04-2007, 11:39 AM
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Default Re: AJo - Easy call?

Push Pre is looking like a much better alternative.

I'm folding here, this is hard ever less than AJ+ or 55+.
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Old 10-04-2007, 11:40 AM
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Default Re: AJo - Easy call?

I think your line is fine. Fold now.
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Old 10-04-2007, 01:41 PM
flippetyflop flippetyflop is offline
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Default Re: AJo - Easy call?

Isn't pushing in this spot a bit overkill? Yeah we do have an m of 7....but pushing all in with a stack of over 7000 to win 1000 is a bit over the top.

Isn't a raise to 3/4 times big blind and then folding to a shove here the optimum play?
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Old 10-05-2007, 11:36 AM
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Default Re: AJo - Easy call?

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I think your line is fine. Fold now.

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Honestly, this is the answer.
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