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50 NL...crying call on flop?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)
CO ($10) Button ($72.30) Hero ($84.20) BB ($40.50) UTG ($32.60) MP ($50) Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $2. Flop: ($5.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $9</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $23.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $40</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $79</font>, MP calls $7.50 (All-In). Turn: ($100.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font> River: ($100.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font> Final Pot: $100.50 |
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Re: 50 NL...crying call on flop?
Don't 3-bet his raise if you plan on folding to a 4-bet I think.
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Re: 50 NL...crying call on flop?
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Don't 3-bet his raise if you plan on folding to a 4-bet. [/ QUOTE ] |
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Re: 50 NL...crying call on flop?
Reads matter here.
Certainly against a sane TAG, I call his flop raise and check turn hoping to god he checks behind. His flop raising range is a rather nasty combo of FD's (not that often), sets (pretty often), worse K's (kinda often) and bluffs (hardly ever from this villain). That's horrible RIO/owntown territory for us. And if it is one of the occasions he has a worse K, he has only 3 outs, so there's no rush to get value now. For these reasons, against a decent TAG, I call flop and try to get to cheap showdown, probably c/f lots of turns. If villain's an aggro drooler, this makes overplaying weak K's, FD's and bluffs somewhat more likely on flop. But I might still call and get it in on an ok turn when a flush's equity has fallen. Fwiw, I also think villains raise size on the flop is a bit of a tell - I think he wants you around with a K, but is somewhat concerned about the FD. |
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Re: 50 NL...crying call on flop?
Yeah I think I can fold this when Im playing really well.
Biggest clue im beat is when he makes it $40 to go leaving $7 behind... this is a set alot imo. That said you cant really call the flop raise (Im not a fan of calling and betting 'safe' turns. And once you 3-bet him you HAVE to call. Sucks that he had a set, notch it down to variance. |
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Re: 50 NL...crying call on flop?
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Reads matter here. Certainly against a sane TAG, I call his flop raise and check turn hoping to god he checks behind. His flop raising range is a rather nasty combo of FD's (not that often), sets (pretty often), worse K's (kinda often) and bluffs (hardly ever from this villain). That's horrible RIO/owntown territory for us. And if it is one of the occasions he has a worse K, he has only 3 outs, so there's no rush to get value now. For these reasons, against a decent TAG, I call flop and try to get to cheap showdown, probably c/f lots of turns. If villain's an aggro drooler, this makes overplaying weak K's, FD's and bluffs somewhat more likely on flop. But I might still call and get it in on an ok turn when a flush's equity has fallen. Fwiw, I also think villains raise size on the flop is a bit of a tell - I think he wants you around with a K, but is somewhat concerned about the FD. [/ QUOTE ] Pretty much everything I was thinking about this hand, only like more cohesive and thorough. Very nice post, I agree with everything. |
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Re: 50 NL...crying call on flop?
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Don't 3-bet his raise if you plan on folding to a 4-bet I think. [/ QUOTE ] So would you call the almost min-raise and then donk a safe turn? As played, a small raise followed by a 4-bet min-raise is a monster. Pocket 6's FTW. In a vaccum, I actually kinda like the 3-bet/fold given the stacks and board, but for metagame it kinda sucks. |
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