Most +EV ? AKs preflop

CruS · #1 10-02-2007, 09:06 PM

CO is 16/8/21 and deep with me
SB is 44/9

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SB ($18.65)
Hero ($50.90)
UTG ($23.65)
MP ($2.80)
CO ($50.65)
Button ($51.65)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP raises to $2.8 (All-In), CO calls $2.80, 1 fold, SB calls $2.70, Hero? 

What's my best +EV move, I guess I crush their holdings

prodonkey · #2 10-02-2007, 09:08 PM

I'd raise to like $15.. if SB calls that's ok.. CO will probably fold his small pair or suited stuff he's playing.

CruS · #3 10-02-2007, 09:10 PM

and calls if CO shoves?

prodonkey · #4 10-02-2007, 09:13 PM

I guess it depends on your read of CO.. most people aren't calling AA behind an all in there hoping someone squeezes unless you or SB are habitual squeezers, but most people at 25nl don't even think like that. I think I'd call his all because I just wouldn't believe he would play AA or KK like that.

Trogdor! · #5 10-02-2007, 09:18 PM

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I guess it depends on your read of CO.. most people aren't calling AA behind an all in there hoping someone squeezes unless you or SB are habitual squeezers, but most people at 25nl don't even think like that. I think I'd call his all because I just wouldn't believe he would play AA or KK like that.

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hes thinking would more likely be "zomg AA, ill call to get more people in the pot and not raise them off there hands.....zomg a raise, that guy must have a strong hand and we are deep ill PUUSHH"

Trogdor! · #6 10-02-2007, 09:15 PM

yes you must squeeze this preflop, AK hates 4 handed

ild probably fold if CO shoves, call/push shows alot of strength but i doubt he will push

Leviathan101 · #7 10-02-2007, 09:19 PM

Raise to $12. Instacall if SB pushes... CO is trickier. It really depends whether or not he can cold call AA and KK here. Like it's hard for me to imagine him pushing a worse hand than AKs here, so I guess I'd fold. If he pushes back over, I'd say a loose range is like, 88+, AK, AQ maybe. I'd fold there, since I think his range is actually much tighter.

toddxlogan · #8 10-02-2007, 09:24 PM

CO a thinking player at all? Sure he's nitty, but he looks SUPER aggressive (agg factor 21???), and that leads me to think he might be smart enough to be able to spot a squeeze. (your raise). This may or may not make him smart enough to find a "good" spot to resqueeze.

This possibility makes me think raising 12-15pf and calling a shove from either of these guys is probably the best thing you can do.

You're No Daisy · #9 10-03-2007, 12:25 AM

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and calls if CO shoves?

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I would lay the hand down CO shoves. Why he wouldn't re-raise preflop to begin with if he had AA-KK is a mystery to me. I would pop the callers to about $13-15. Don't make seeing the flop cheap.

AC

wslee00 · #10 10-03-2007, 01:20 AM

i *highly* doubt CO will shove - basically i'm saying you're discussing a situation that will happen once a year in your poker life, so it's not worth discussing, imo.

That said, definitely 3-bet pf - you'll take it down the majority of the time and if called, you have a pretty damn good hand to play with.