Stars $109- Flop flush draw from SB deep in tourney

tedtodd · #1 10-01-2007, 05:39 PM

How would you play it? Lead out? C/R? Call?

I folded....too weak?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t1600 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB (t50918)
UTG (t41959)
UTG+1 (t53589)
MP1 (t18602)
MP2 (t10877)
CO (t29934)
Button (t14548)
rvrmonkey (t38111)

Preflop: rvrmonkey is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t1600, 2 folds, CO calls t1600, 1 fold, rvrmonkey completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t6650) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
rvrmonkey checks, BB checks, UTG+1 bets t3200, CO folds, rvrmonkey?

mlagoo · #2 10-01-2007, 05:43 PM

i would check and call this bet.

g-p · #3 10-01-2007, 05:59 PM

lead flop, c/r flop, c/c flop lead turn, c/c flop check turn but bet some scary cards

c/f seems like the worst

tedtodd · #4 10-01-2007, 06:03 PM

I'm a hair over 20bb. A lot of moves here are committing. Much easier spot deeper, I prob c/r allin if I'm <10bb.

Folding and finding a better spot I thought would be the right decision.

What's the villain making this move with? Any 10? A bigger flush draw?

g-p · #5 10-01-2007, 06:04 PM

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What's the villain making this move with? Any 10? A bigger flush draw?

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how can we know if you dont give any info on him

tedtodd · #6 10-01-2007, 06:11 PM

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What's the villain making this move with? Any 10? A bigger flush draw?

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how can we know if you dont give any info on him

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New table, and he's an unknown. Doesn't appear to be a blatant steal with the CO still left to act. But I also wonder what he's limping there. Small pairs, SC's, Axs...or possibly monsters? Suppose it would be tought to narrow his range. But I don't think he's folding anything he bets here, and my flush draw is behind all other flush draws.

ASPoker8 · #7 10-01-2007, 06:04 PM

c/c flop

lead some turns, c/c others, c/f some maaaaaybe

betgo · #8 10-01-2007, 09:20 PM

What are you afraid of? The guy bet half pot, so call.

Checkraising allin or checkraising to about 10K and pushing the turn also look good.

Ben86 · #9 10-01-2007, 10:57 PM

raising sucks w/ stack sizes, i call and check the turn.

did you consider b/3b? i think i would have chosen that line.

pudhu · #10 10-02-2007, 12:16 AM

I think it may be a little irresponsible to c/c or c/f.

IMO, the combination of him having an underpair to the 10 and the possibility of a big stack steal makes it so that a c/f is unacceptable holding the flush draw.
How about c/r and bet almost any card on the turn if he just calls the re-raise. The play may be vulnerable to slowplaying monsters but long term I think it is a -EV play for an overpair or a set to smooth call a re-raise on the flop.

c/r flop, push turn if flop re-raise if smooth called on flop.
Thoughts?