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10-01-2007, 07:28 PM
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Re: Unionized dealers at Foxwoods?
I can't comment on the details of what Unionizing will get them but my father works @ Foxwoods (not as a dealer) as has said that the workers supporting this are going to get screwed (he didn't provide much beyond that, but I'm assuming he knows at least something regarding details).
From a workers benefits standpoint, from my understanding, foxwoods doesn't treat their employees very well. Some of their practices and policies have made it very difficult to retain any semblance of quality in their workforce (again, from info my dad's given me). -Lazlo... 
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10-01-2007, 08:47 PM
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Re: Unionized dealers at Foxwoods?
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link It looks like dealer at Foxwoods are pushing to unionize. Obviously good for them, but potentially bad for rake?? Are Vegas casinos union? What about other places? [/ QUOTE ] Yes I agree. We've been getting away with a lot with only a 4$ rake and that can't last. Numerous dealers (and a former dealer who now works for the Mirage) have told me that they hate how the casino treats them.
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10-02-2007, 07:31 AM
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Re: Unionized dealers at Foxwoods?
I do work there as a dual rate floor/dealer in the pits. As of right now no one knows when and if the union will actually come. Employess have been signing cards for quite some time but there is still no mention of an answer.
On a side note there is a very strong rumor that poker dealers will start keeping their own tokes starting in January. I read alot on here about how everyone says Foxwoods dealers suck so this may help that situation somewhat.
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10-02-2007, 12:31 PM
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Re: Unionized dealers at Foxwoods?
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On a side note there is a very strong rumor that poker dealers will start keeping their own tokes starting in January. I read alot on here about how everyone says Foxwoods dealers suck so this may help that situation somewhat. [/ QUOTE ] Quite a number of years ago(12 or so) i was emailed by a woman who was a poker dealer at foxwoods...she asked me my thoughts on "keeping your own" as this issue was coming up for a vote by the dealers, she wanted to be able to convince others this would be a good idea. The eventuality is that "keep your own" was defeated , by the dealer vote then, and at least one other time since.( as i understand it) Is this going to a voted on issue? By whom?
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10-02-2007, 01:41 PM
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Re: Unionized dealers at Foxwoods?
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id like to see how the quality of dealers goes up once they keep their own tips, because most of them suck. [/ QUOTE ] I am pretty sure a dealer at Foxwoods could make enough for it to be worthwhile to work there if they could keep there own tips. I have had limited dealings with their dealers. I have had a few audition for me over the years. Every dealer form their that has auditioned for me I have referred to a dealer's school because they were less proficient than dealers coming out of school in the west. This is a very small sample, about 10 over the years.
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10-02-2007, 06:39 PM
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Re: Unionized dealers at Foxwoods?
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[ QUOTE ] On a side note there is a very strong rumor that poker dealers will start keeping their own tokes starting in January. I read alot on here about how everyone says Foxwoods dealers suck so this may help that situation somewhat. [/ QUOTE ] Quite a number of years ago(12 or so) i was emailed by a woman who was a poker dealer at foxwoods...she asked me my thoughts on "keeping your own" as this issue was coming up for a vote by the dealers, she wanted to be able to convince others this would be a good idea. The eventuality is that "keep your own" was defeated , by the dealer vote then, and at least one other time since.( as i understand it) Is this going to a voted on issue? By whom? [/ QUOTE ] If I remember correctly it was shot down 12 years ago by the dealers voting against it. We did have a vote about 3 yrs ago. All dealers and dual rates were eligible to vote. I believe the actual # people that voted was about half and I Dont know why others didnt vote. There were other issues we were voting on as well at the time so it took about 5 min. Dealers were either lazy and didnt want to take the quick time to vote or some just didnt care. Well when votes we were told it was about 80-20 in favor of poker dealers keeping their own but management came back in with the excuse that there were errors in software and the vote was thrown out and we havent been able to vote since. Strong speculation at that time from dealers on our toke comittee was that both the pit and poker dealers would be making a decent amount more then they are now. When management realized this would happen then they would have to pay floors more otherwise they wouldnt have any as most would have went back to dealing full time. Key to this being Foxwoods floors are some of the lowest paid in the country. Since then management has shot it down everytime someone raised up the issue to bring back a vote. That amongst a ton of other issues is why you hear all this union talk.
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#9
10-02-2007, 07:50 PM
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Re: Unionized dealers at Foxwoods?
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If I remember correctly it was shot down 12 years ago by the dealers voting against it. We did have a vote about 3 yrs ago. All dealers and dual rates were eligible to vote. I believe the actual # people that voted was about half and I Dont know why others didnt vote. There were other issues we were voting on as well at the time so it took about 5 min. Dealers were either lazy and didnt want to take the quick time to vote or some just didnt care. Well when votes we were told it was about 80-20 in favor of poker dealers keeping their own but management came back in with the excuse that there were errors in software and the vote was thrown out and we havent been able to vote since. Strong speculation at that time from dealers on our toke comittee was that both the pit and poker dealers would be making a decent amount more then they are now. When management realized this would happen then they would have to pay floors more otherwise they wouldnt have any as most would have went back to dealing full time. Key to this being Foxwoods floors are some of the lowest paid in the country. Since then management has shot it down everytime someone raised up the issue to bring back a vote. That amongst a ton of other issues is why you hear all this union talk. [/ QUOTE ] that's interesting to know. do the floormen share equally in the tips now?
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