Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > General Poker Discussion > Beginners Questions
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 09-26-2007, 04:30 PM
hed zup hed zup is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Poker > Sleep
Posts: 313
Default how does this bankroll plan sound?

Starting roll: $300

0 -> 499 = NLH/PLO 0.05/0.10

500 -> 999 = NLH/PLO 0.10/0.25

1000 -> 2000 = NLH/PLO/HeadsUp 0.25/0.50

2000+ = NLH/PLO/HeadsUp 0.50 1.00


How does this sound?

I dont really care how long this takes to be honest because i have never had money in a poker account for more than 2 weeks i guess.

If i can actually reach 0.50/1.00 using proper bankroll management i would be really happy and proud.

Also because i wont have the ideal amount of buyins for each level i have decided if i drop 4 buyins after moving up ill mover back down.

For example:-

say when i move up to 0.50 1.00 with $2000, then i drop 4 buyins and have a BR of ~1600, i'll move back down to 0.25/0.50.

So how does all this sound? Any recomended ajustments you think i should make to this BR plan?

Ty Ty
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 09-26-2007, 05:53 PM
Carolina Pirate Carolina Pirate is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 242
Default Re: how does this bankroll plan sound?

looks pretty normal. very conservative to begin with allowing for a learning curve and then 20 BI (5%) rule and that's what most would recommend
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-26-2007, 11:52 PM
Quicksilvre Quicksilvre is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Clinging to the binomial theorem like a drunk to a lamppost
Posts: 3,482
Default Re: how does this bankroll plan sound?

Sounds fine. IIRC the bankroll requirements for a decent player are 10 buy-ins for 10NL, 15 buy-ins for 25NL and 20 buy-ins for anything higher than that. You're clear of that here; going conservative is a good route if you don't have a ton of experience.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-30-2007, 11:56 AM
ev_slave ev_slave is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Grad School Hell
Posts: 233
Default Re: how does this bankroll plan sound?

[ QUOTE ]
Sounds fine. IIRC the bankroll requirements for a decent player are 10 buy-ins for 10NL, 15 buy-ins for 25NL and 20 buy-ins for anything higher than that. You're clear of that here; going conservative is a good route if you don't have a ton of experience.

[/ QUOTE ]

I sometimes wonder how long it's been since some of the PBs and other higher # posters have played 10NL. I think that maybe those stakes have gotten a little tougher since they worked through it? 10 Buyins is far too low. I'm in the middle of a downswing where if I only had $100 to start I'd be feeling quite quite nervous.

And players need not be "decent" to be safe. Many talk about how easy the "donks" at these levels are, but even if they call you AI w/ only 20% equity, the hero (whether decent, good, or great) will face more variance than if the villain had the good sense to fold when he was behind, and the pot was scooped with no risk.

I think that 20 is still a good number to start 10NL with, and more is better. I'd hazard a guess that it's the same w/ 25NL.

OP, I think your plan looks pretty solid (at least the first few stages).
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-30-2007, 12:01 PM
Quicksilvre Quicksilvre is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Clinging to the binomial theorem like a drunk to a lamppost
Posts: 3,482
Default Re: how does this bankroll plan sound?

[ QUOTE ]
I sometimes wonder how long it's been since some of the PBs and other higher # posters have played 10NL.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm playing 10NL now, though with a lot more than ten buy-ins (I'm a little short for 25NL). I honestly do feel that the 20 buy-in rule is way too conservative down at the lower levels, though obviously, more buy-ins would be safer and safer is better when you're starting out.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-30-2007, 12:32 PM
ev_slave ev_slave is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Grad School Hell
Posts: 233
Default Re: how does this bankroll plan sound?

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I sometimes wonder how long it's been since some of the PBs and other higher # posters have played 10NL.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm playing 10NL now, though with a lot more than ten buy-ins (I'm a little short for 25NL). I honestly do feel that the 20 buy-in rule is way too conservative down at the lower levels, though obviously, more buy-ins would be safer and safer is better when you're starting out.

[/ QUOTE ]

touche'
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-30-2007, 03:58 PM
Nightlight87 Nightlight87 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 171
Default Re: how does this bankroll plan sound?

It was only a reply stating a different opinion to yours? And I agree with it, I think 20 BIs is conservative for at 10NL I started playing it when I had 10BIs and have worked up to 20.

But that was mainly because at 2NL-5Nl the stakes were too low and I found it hard to concentrate and take the game seriously.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09-26-2007, 11:57 PM
basementproject basementproject is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Toronto
Posts: 515
Default Re: how does this bankroll plan sound?

Definitely move up to 25NL after $400. $400 is plenty provided you didn't build your roll purely by luck.

Also, not sure if I'd play different games consistently with the same BR. I'd probably want to keep a seperate one for both NL and PLO. The inherent statistical nature of the two games are slightly different, and as such the variance is going to be different as well (can I say the variance will vary? lol).

This way, if you are profiting hardcore at NL, and running horrid at OH, you don't cut into NL profits by playing short-rolled in case you want to multi-table.

GL!
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 09-28-2007, 09:34 AM
Wardfish Wardfish is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hull, England
Posts: 187
Default Re: how does this bankroll plan sound?

I would build in some sort of withdrawal schedule.

I currently withdraw 10% of my month-end bankroll, because its nice to see something tangible for your efforts, no matter how small.

Also, you need to consider the possibility that you will get stuck at a certain level for a significant period of time. Without seeing some reward you may lose focus and let it affect your game. Imagine the learning golfer who cant break 100 for weeks and weeks before suddenly cracking it and quickly reaching the low 90s. It does happen.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 09-28-2007, 09:43 AM
saskaman saskaman is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 86
Default Re: how does this bankroll plan sound?

Worry less about roll and more about skill intially. Too many use the 20 bi rule and forget that they must constantly improve their game to match their level. 20 bi is not a magic number that guarantees success.

Good Luck
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:34 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.