$400NL - 2 times fold set on turn?

KingBrian · #1 09-25-2007, 04:27 PM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em (NL$400) (6 handed) link

UTG ($986.00)
Hero ($402.00)
CO ($279.80)
Button ($384.00)
SB ($446.90)
BB ($778.90)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG raises to $14.00, Hero calls $14.00, CO calls $14.00, 3 folds.

Flop: ($48.00) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $32.00, CO folds, UTG calls $32.00.

Turn: ($112.00) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $80.00, UTG raises to $256.00, Hero folds ok?

villain is a good regular. no more info

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hand 2:

PartyPoker Hold'em (6 handed) HandRecorder

Stacks & Stats
SB ($440.30) (21/14/2.10/23) (1194h)
MP ($515.10)
BU ($81.80)
UTG ($582)
CO ($150.42)
Hero ($805.30)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO calls $4, 1 folds, SB calls $2, Hero checks.

Flop: ($12) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets $6, Hero raises to $23, CO folds, SB calls $17.

Turn: ($58) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $49, SB raises to $200, Hero raises to $778.3 (all-in), SB calls $213.3 (all-in).

River: ($1,249.60) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $1,249.60.

is it overplayed? Calling the check/raise is no good isnt it?

wiggs73 · #2 09-25-2007, 04:32 PM

yikes, i would hate folding either

tozzy · #3 09-25-2007, 04:45 PM

would you mind sharing your PP sn?

ipokeder · #4 09-25-2007, 04:47 PM

ah, man... hand 1 i think turn fold is fine without an explicit read that it wouldn't be because he's some kind of a retard

hand 2... i feel like should be a fold somewhere but i can't find where, so i'd just go with it and expect to lose a lot of the time

edit: like, for hand one you need to define "good regular" much more explicitly in order to justify pushing

cbboy · #5 09-25-2007, 04:52 PM

Whats your image like here? Stats? History? I think that changes things a lot.

KingBrian · #6 09-25-2007, 04:59 PM

I played tagstyle. about 20/16
no history. I dunno villains very well because I am new at Nl400

Hattifnatt · #7 09-25-2007, 05:02 PM

I push turn in hand 1 and play 2 the same as you did.

tubasteve · #8 09-25-2007, 06:03 PM

i think folding hand one would be pretty bad, hand 2 is a lot closer since the T9 draw got there and higher sets are much more likely the way the hand played out. i wouldn't mind a fold, but im probably not good enough to do it myself.

aislephive · #9 09-25-2007, 06:42 PM

Hand 1 is very consistent with a tag playing AT. They don't want to bet the flop and get raised, so they take a more passive line and c/c the flop. Now that he hits top two pair he thinks he is good of course and therefore goes for a c/r.

Hand 2 is foldable perhaps, if we can assume he wouldn't play J8/J7 in this manner.