Very Intresting live 2/5 hand.....

[Machmood]

Last night i was playing in an extremly soft live game, filled with SERIOUS fishes. Its a 2/5 game but most people r short stacked(1-2 hundo) and in reality it should of been a 1-2. Guys were going all in with KJ for their last hundrd just to get lucky, i mean it was really something...

onto the hand:

I pick up JJ UTG and decide to limp re-raise, the guy to my left just limps, but hes pretty solid he usually only raises or folds, so i put him on a suited ace or suited connecotrs. It folds around to the button who is a horrible player, and he raises 20 dollars. I know his betting pattern n style, ANY!! pair he raises big here, he usually just limps with something like A10 or AJ, so i have him pegged on AK. When it comes to me it seems like a perfect spot to raise. But im very confident on my reads, and know that the button will continuation bet his ak, and maybe the guy who i think has suited connectors will hit top pair n pay me off...... so i smooth call and so does the guy to my left.

The flop comes Q 4 6 wit 2 clubs, what i feel is a good flop for me. I check, the guy to my left checks, and the button bets out 40 just as i thought. I think for alil and raise to 140, now the worst possible thing happpnes, the guy to my left starts thinking and says his Q must be good, DAMMMMIT HE HAS QJ!!!! neway he ends up going all in for 20 dollars more then my bet, amazingly the guy with AK calls, and i call the extra 20 n lose the hand.

Just thought it was an intresting hand, preflop i decided i was going to limp re-raise, then when the opprotunity came i decide to play it alil diff n try to get paid. I figured if i re raised pre the QJ folds and its me an the AK all in heads up. In a VERY soft game like this i hate getting all in on a coin flip, it gives a player MUCH worse then me a 50 50 shot at my money, which doesnt do me ne justice. I ended up losing the maximun on the hand, but i was happy with my play/reads, just got blind sided alil. NE comments on how i played it?

[Machmood]

Also what do u guys do wit the QJ in that position. I think the guy put me on a semi-bluff with 2 clubs, because when the money went all in no1 showed their hand n he kept saying no club no club.... a club came but no1 had em.....

[Mike Kelley]

So you hate flipping pre flop but like CR all in when an over hits on the flop?

I think you botched it big time.

[Machmood]

i agree re-raising is the better play 99 percent of the time, but just because an over card hits i dont have to surrender, especially if i dont think ne1 has hit it

[Machmood]

ne1 else

[Mike Kelley]

I know I just bashed this logic in another thread but what is calling your flop raise that doesn't have you beat? Seems like you turned your hand into a bluff on the flop. If you really had button on AK and other guy on small suited connectors why not just call. suited connectors should fold and you can check raise AK on the turn.

[CazicT]

So the horrible player raises you when you were planning to c/reraise and you don't punish him for it? So you decide that giving 2 villians 3 free cards is a good idea?

You are very likely ahead preflop. Push it in, expect the solid player to fold and expect the horrible player to call with a few hands which you are a slight favorite to (not 50/50) and even some hands in which he is a more significant dog.

Seems to me like you are a decent reader, but you either need some work on your theory or you are too greedy. (No offense, just my observation).

[ship_it_trebek]

My main goal preflop is to limit the number of players and get HU with the donkey, scaring away the player to your left. This makes the hand easier, regardless of the flop.

[Albert Moulton]

Just raise preflop to $15 (a nice small, but not too small raise), and either c-b or c/c or c/f depending on the number of players to the flop, who they are, how they look, and the board texture. I think playing JJ for a limp/rr was a little too much FPS.

If you raise to $15, and then if this particular guy on the button reraises, but the solid guy was your only other caller behind you, you should consider pushing preflop if you don't have sufficient implied odds to call and play for set value. I doubt the solid guy calls that kind of action with any hand that he wouldn't have already reraised you with earlier in the round. So you end up all-in vs button's range of AT-AK/TT-AA with the blinds and the solid guy's $15 as overlay.