NL200 - Flopped a Flush deepstacked and feel sick.

Halo7 · #1 09-23-2007, 11:59 AM

PFR is an unknown. Villian (Button) is a LAG regular (29/17/1.5/500) . He is capable of making semi bluffs, but usually doesn't have air.

Carbon Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

MP ($199.00)
CO ($278.65)
Button ($418.80)
SB ($233.70)
Hero ($658.36)
UTG ($208.65)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, CO raises to $8, Button calls $8, 1 fold, Hero calls $6.

Flop: ($25) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $10, Button calls $10, Hero raises to $50, CO folds, Button raises to $130, Hero ???

With the small bet on the flop and the call, I wanted to raise to make sure Ah didn't get to draw cheaply. Then this happened...

Thoughts on whole line in general appreciated.

spivey · #2 09-23-2007, 12:04 PM

I think preflop is fine. Flop I'd lead because you don't know that CO will bet. Button doesn't look that aggro at all, that's a pretty small aggression factor.

That said, I push.

FGators · #3 09-23-2007, 12:08 PM

I don't think I push...that just gets calls from higher flushes.

I'd call and get it in on a non heart/non paired board turn..fold if one of those happens and he pushes/bets huge.

Sadly this looks like he flopped the nuts, though.

spivey · #4 09-23-2007, 12:11 PM

What? If he decided to play a set like this, I doubt he's folding. He's also not folding small flushes.

chris269 · #5 09-23-2007, 12:14 PM

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What? If he decided to play a set like this, I doubt he's folding. He's also not folding small flushes.

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The only smaller flushes are 56 and 45.

Isn't this a SA/WB situation? We are about 66% fav against a set, but 0% dog against the higher flush.

keikiwai · #6 09-23-2007, 12:15 PM

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0% dog against the higher flush.

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i think you mean 100% dog.... which isn't true btw

RiverHebrew2 · #7 09-23-2007, 12:23 PM

Against a set you're 60-40 favorite, and against a higher flopped flush (which most flushes would be higher than urs) you're pretty much drawing to a backdoor straight flush (500:1 shot) only if those cards weren't folded. Given that you're a 60:40 favorite or a 500:1 underdog ONLY IMO, being against a higher flush 75% of the time I'd say, I'd fold the hand and feel pretty well.

Tony Skaloni · #8 09-23-2007, 12:26 PM

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Against a set you're 60-40 favorite, and against a higher flopped flush (which most flushes would be higher than urs) you're pretty much drawing to a backdoor straight flush (500:1 shot) only if those cards weren't folded. Given that you're a 60:40 favorite or a 500:1 underdog ONLY IMO, being against a higher flush 75% of the time I'd say, I'd fold the hand and feel pretty well.

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isn't it 989 to 1 j/w.... u forgot the times i know its small however when the other guy did flop a lower flush.

Halo7 · #9 09-23-2007, 12:47 PM

At the time, I was following FGators reasoning of calling and reevaluating based on turn. With stacks these deep I wanted to give myself an out if the turn is nasty (another heart or paired board).

Hero calls $80.

Turn: ($295) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $280.8 (all-in), Hero ??

Tony Skaloni · #10 09-23-2007, 12:50 PM

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At the time, I was following FGators reasoning of calling and reevaluating based on turn. With stacks these deep I wanted to give myself an out if the turn is nasty (another heart or paired board).

well since the turn was good i guess stick in there.

Hero calls $80.

Turn: ($295) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $280.8 (all-in), Hero ??

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