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No reads.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (7 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com CO (t2810) Button (t5620) SB (t1700) BB (t3425) UTG (t1905) MP1 (t2750) Hero (t1790) Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls t100, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t350</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP1 calls t250. Flop: (t850) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ? )</font> - preflop: shove 18bb? limp? fold? raise 4bb? why? - flop: c-bet? fold to crai? why? Thanks for any input.. |
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Raise to 350 is good. I bet out on the flop every time. You have 1440 left. If you bet half the pot that leaves you with 10bb and if he shoves i'd call. I think if you c-bet smaller you can get away from the hand if he c/r's but i'd just bet 1/2 the pot and c what happens.
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Raise to 350 is good. I bet out on the flop every time. You have 1440 left. If you bet half the pot that leaves you with 10bb and if he shoves i'd call. I think if you c-bet smaller you can get away from the hand if he c/r's but i'd just bet 1/2 the pot and c what happens. [/ QUOTE ] why would you auto-call every time? that seems strange. what kind of a range do you think this villain has, that you are always calling w/ 2nd pair? personally this is one of those situations where i bet very close to pot. by doing so i would think villain would be less likely to bluff w/ a CRAI. could be very exploitable, but i doubt that's something you have to worry about the majority of the time. |
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If you bet the pot and he c/r's you would u fold that?
lets go ahead and c-bet 1/2 into the pot. Now lets say he c/r's all-in. your gonna have 10bb left and i'm basing my decision to call solely your stack size left if you were to fold. What happens if he just calls? Which i think is more likely to happen than him c/ring you. you still have @ best 10bb left if u c-bet the flop and i dont c how we can fold the turn or river. After looking @ all the situations that can happen why not just push the flop? If he was gonna call your c-bet or c/r it i think your pot committed and will have to call so get some FE and just shove it. Makes it short and sweet. EDIT: i have been @ work for 16 hours now and been up far longer so I could be completely off track and also that is why i kinda rambled. lol |
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Here's what happened on the flop:
Flop: (t850) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t450</font>, MP1 raises all-in [t2400] , Hero calls [t990] </font> So I c-bet 1/2 pot and called the crai 990 (pot 3700). My reasoning was that the range of an unknown villain contains a flush draw and weaker pairs (possibly even air) enough to make it a call getting 3:1. I'm wondering: A) Do you pretty much have to c-bet the flop? If so, with what reads (types of villains) can you find a fold getting 3:1 with 10bb behind? B) Is pushing the flop better than c-betting over 1/2 the pot? Why? C) Can you do anything smart pre-flop to make post-flop easier? |
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you can limp pre if you want or raise to maybe 400 or 450 to make a c-bet a larger percentage of your stack. I c-bet half pot and probably call a shove b/c the board is too drawy to fold. At least you have a backdoor flush draw and blocker ace if he hes JT.
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[ QUOTE ] Raise to 350 is good. I bet out on the flop every time. You have 1440 left. If you bet half the pot that leaves you with 10bb and if he shoves i'd call. I think if you c-bet smaller you can get away from the hand if he c/r's but i'd just bet 1/2 the pot and c what happens. [/ QUOTE ] why would you auto-call every time? that seems strange. what kind of a range do you think this villain has, that you are always calling w/ 2nd pair? personally this is one of those situations where i bet very close to pot. by doing so i would think villain would be less likely to bluff w/ a CRAI. could be very exploitable, but i doubt that's something you have to worry about the majority of the time. [/ QUOTE ] So basicly you're getting it all in the same amount except when he wants to bluff? I dont get it. |
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PF: shove>t350>>>limp
I make it t550 on flop, but not sure if I call or fold to a push. I probably call. Interesting post. |
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push pf. push now since u didnt
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Put me in the push pf camp, postflop will be too awkward if whiffed, and if co/button/blinds or anyone comes along it doesnt help matters
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