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Old 09-21-2007, 01:38 PM
PokerCrab PokerCrab is offline
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Default 2/5 NL hand - Bad play? questionable call?

New table -- first round of blinds -- no info on players but the orignal preflop raiser has raised like first 3 hands already...he's in early position and makes it 20 -- Im on button with Jd10d...5 peeps to the flop.

Flop 2s4s9d

checked to me...I figure everyone is weak and if anyone make a real hand - they probably make a bet to protect from flush draw so i decided to take a stab at the pot -- I bet $70. I figure only callers would be A9 or some sort of flush draw.

Turn 5s

check check

I was all ready to give up the pot at this point. Figure im drawing dead if he has flush and i figure i take free card to try to beat A9 if that's why he has.

river 3s

and he checks!

that's where im questioning -- im thinking about stealing now since i can represent a straight flush or if he has a smaller flush like j or q high -- he might lay it down thinking i might have the ace. im thinking that the only hand that can really call me is the ace high flush and i didnt think he had that for some reason...so I bet 150 - is this play okay and is the bet too small or big? or is this just a bad play?

opponent calls and flip over JsQs....what do you think about this call if no reads aside from betting pattern and if you had Q high flush -- how much would you lay this hand down for?

any opinions be appreciated. =)
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Old 09-21-2007, 05:11 PM
Janis N. Janis N. is offline
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Default Re: 2/5 NL hand - Bad play? questionable call?

It's live. They are bad. They aren't folding much. I don't even try stealing on the flop.
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Old 09-21-2007, 05:16 PM
jlocdog jlocdog is offline
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Default Re: 2/5 NL hand - Bad play? questionable call?

If you are going to 'stab' at this flop then you need to be prepared to fire a second barrel when the flush hits. Infact I would be betting at this flop in order to represent spades, not the 9.
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Old 09-21-2007, 05:21 PM
FireStorm FireStorm is offline
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Default Re: 2/5 NL hand - Bad play? questionable call?

River bet is fine, you are simply up against bad players who only see the fact that they HAVE to call you because they turned a flush, and don't want to roll over and die.
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Old 09-21-2007, 06:23 PM
AAismyfriend AAismyfriend is offline
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Default Re: 2/5 NL hand - Bad play? questionable call?

yea I think the river bet is ok, but expecting him to fold a Q high flush here is just silly. C/Fing a Q high flush here would be bad, and it's also live where people don't like folding.
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Old 09-21-2007, 06:54 PM
atrainpsu atrainpsu is offline
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Default Re: 2/5 NL hand - Bad play? questionable call?

Bet is okay, but I think I like a smaller bet.
I think $75-100 should fold out all non-flush hands, whereas $150 may fold out small flushes (Ts or worse), but they are a small part of his range. I dont expect to see Qs fold here very often.
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