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Old 09-19-2007, 09:01 PM
johndenver johndenver is offline
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Default 25nl - QQ in a huge pot

Is my line ok here? I checked/called the turn for pot control because the pot size was getting kind of out of hand for my 1 pair... does that look ok?


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($22.50)
MP ($8.15)
CO ($20.05)
Button ($32.50)
SB ($23.50)
Hero ($28.20)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, UTG calls $1.50, MP calls $1.50, CO calls $1.50, SB folds.

Flop: ($7.25) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4.25</font>, UTG calls $4.25, MP folds, CO folds.

Turn: ($15.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $6.75</font>, Hero calls $6.75.

River: ($29.25) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $15.45 (All-In)</font>, UTG calls $9.75 (All-In).

Final Pot: $48.75
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Old 09-19-2007, 09:04 PM
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Default Re: 25nl - QQ in a huge pot

ok so you are not folding to a bet on the turn, since you have a great hand here, so when you are calling that bet you are pot committed anyways. Just c/r him allin on the turn instead.
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Old 09-19-2007, 09:07 PM
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Default Re: 25nl - QQ in a huge pot

Yeah there is no pot control here, villians gonna put you in most of the time anyways on the river, I do same.

Mack
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Old 09-19-2007, 09:11 PM
johndenver johndenver is offline
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Default Re: 25nl - QQ in a huge pot

i guess what spooked me was the that he called my pretty large raise pf, i dont know if unknown does that with 89 or xT, i'm worried about a slowplayed AA-KK and sets
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Old 09-19-2007, 09:22 PM
mackthefork mackthefork is offline
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Default Re: 25nl - QQ in a huge pot

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i guess what spooked me was the that he called my pretty large raise pf, i dont know if unknown does that with 89 or xT, i'm worried about a slowplayed AA-KK and sets

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Okay thats all fine, but if you are going to continue then you have to push the turn I think, because you can't call for the two outer as you know, what did he have anyways?

Mack
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Old 09-19-2007, 09:30 PM
johndenver johndenver is offline
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Default Re: 25nl - QQ in a huge pot

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i guess what spooked me was the that he called my pretty large raise pf, i dont know if unknown does that with 89 or xT, i'm worried about a slowplayed AA-KK and sets

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Okay thats all fine, but if you are going to continue then you have to push the turn I think, because you can't call for the two outer as you know, what did he have anyways?

Mack

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he had 22, i agree though i should have shoved the turn after he bet, i didnt think of the calling for 2 outs thing obv bad, i've just been running so bad and getting stacked on very similar hands to this lately i'm playing extra scared
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Old 09-19-2007, 09:24 PM
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Default Re: 25nl - QQ in a huge pot

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i guess what spooked me was the that he called my pretty large raise pf, i dont know if unknown does that with 89 or xT, i'm worried about a slowplayed AA-KK and sets

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more often than not he has a speculative holding, and makes a decent pair he can't let go. You get called on every street by the guy with JTs who called looking for a flush and cant fold top pair.
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Old 09-19-2007, 09:07 PM
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Default Re: 25nl - QQ in a huge pot

Imo, the pot isn't big enough for your one pair. I bet every street. What are you worried about? He calls on the flop with a pair of Tens, and 89 and maybe a pair of sevens. He will probably dump less than top pair on the turn (you never know though), but still call with worse hands. River you have the nuts so obv push.
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Old 09-19-2007, 09:08 PM
UptownExpress UptownExpress is offline
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Default Re: 25nl - QQ in a huge pot

i don't think u understand pot control.

sometimes u will call a turn for pot control in order to keep the pot small. but in this case the pot is already so big that u can no longer control it. so just put it on the turn.
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Old 09-19-2007, 09:09 PM
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Default Re: 25nl - QQ in a huge pot

Which line do you like best here, c/r turn or b/c turn?
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